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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ken Pecora, Oct 29, 2023.

  1. Ken Pecora
    Joined: Aug 22, 2021
    Posts: 33

    Ken Pecora

    I need to rewire my '40 Ford tudor standard from scratch. It will be a basic driver with a modern drive train. Carb and distro. No electronics. No AC, cruise or big sound systems. Just the basics. Can anyone recommend a basic kit they used with success or something they they would say to stay away from?? I would appreciate hearing about your experiences. Thanks
     
  2. El Caballo
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 6,332

    El Caballo
    Member
    from Houston TX

    I put a Rebel Wire kit in a 1958 Biscayne, seemed to work fine.
     
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  3. Kiwi 4d
    Joined: Sep 16, 2006
    Posts: 3,882

    Kiwi 4d
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    Stay away…Yes I know bagging Hoffman group again. I should have done more research before I purchased my "keep it clean" pro15 circuit wiring kit. Bought it super cheap at a swap meet , now I know why it was so cheap. My bad I did not realise keep it clean was a Hoffman group. Got the jitters when I saw that. I just thought cool a complete rewire on our shoebox coupe with 15 more fuses than the old original wiring( none)
    Instructions looked ok but are instructions not meant to be identical to the product?
    Wire labelling did not match the colour in the instructions , red must mean green. 3 identical pink wires and it says pink , violet and lt pink. Says white with black trace ,must mean blue, there were no wires with a trace colour. The labelling is missing on some and others waaaay to far apart. Not fair on my ageing eyes. No cable ties. What else is missing. I know for sure there will be many more mistakes, but at this point I threw in the towel .
    No I am not colour blind , I can colour match paint. But sure felt colour blind.
    Bought a new REBEL wire kit , easy as.
     
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  4. Wizard1926
    Joined: Jun 17, 2023
    Posts: 110

    Wizard1926

    I just picked up an EZ Wiring 12 circuit harness for my 26 Tudor. Have not installed it yet, but looks to be good quality.
     
  5. jaracer
    Joined: Oct 4, 2008
    Posts: 3,046

    jaracer
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I used a Painless kit on my Model A. It is a well put together kit with excellent quality. They also have a great installation manual.

    I recently did a 66 Olds 442 and I forget the kit name (owner purchased), but the wires are all loose and you connect them one at a time at the fuse panel. If I had that one to do over I would have connected all the wiring before installing the fuse panel. While it sounded like a good idea to install and wire the accessory then run the wire to the fuse panel, I found it to be a big PIA in practice.
     
  6. 51504bat
    Joined: May 22, 2010
    Posts: 5,618

    51504bat
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Another vote for Rebel. USA made with quality wire. I've used 2 of their 9+3 kits. First one easy peasy because I had my old boss/mentor there to ***ist. 2nd one was my '54 Ranch Wagon that I did solo since my boss/mentor p***ed (Miss you Ron) Anyway only had a few minor issues that I might have been able to muttle through on my own but a quick call to Rebel's excellent tech support and all was golden. Plus, Rebel is an Alliance vendor here on the HAMB. Yes, there are other quality kits but just seems right IMO to support an Alliance vendor.
     
  7. gimpyshotrods
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 24,513

    gimpyshotrods
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Rebel.

    Total up the number of circuits that you think that you might need, and add 3.

    Then you will not have to rip anything up if you want to add something.
     
  8. vtx1800
    Joined: Oct 4, 2009
    Posts: 1,903

    vtx1800
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I've been happy with the Rebel kits I've used, quality of the kit is good and the tech help is great, American made too and a good value (especially if you are an Alliance member)
     
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  9. AHotRod
    Joined: Jul 27, 2001
    Posts: 12,338

    AHotRod
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    All we use is American Autowire for over 23 years now.
     
  10. V8 Bob
    Joined: Feb 6, 2007
    Posts: 3,152

    V8 Bob
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    I used the "Bare Bonz" kits from Ron Francis on my '32 and '40, and would use their kits again. Very good tech help and catalog wiring "tips", high quality components, and probably the best accessory selection, imo.
     
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  11. HOTRODPRIMER
    Joined: Jan 3, 2003
    Posts: 64,735

    HOTRODPRIMER
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    Same here, everything you will ever need is in that box and enough wire to do a bus. :DHRP
     
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  12. CME1
    Joined: Aug 10, 2010
    Posts: 356

    CME1
    Member

    I have used two EZ Wiring Kits (and they were) in two different cars to this date. Very easy to follow instructions
    and the wires are marked every foot so it is easy to locate. The Tech Dept was very helpful when needed.
     
  13. ffr1222k
    Joined: Nov 5, 2009
    Posts: 1,454

    ffr1222k
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I had a good experience with Rebel. I used it on a 56 Ford.
     
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  14. I'm a fan of Centech because of their fuse panel. I used their kit on my 32 but I don't like the switches that come with most kits. Because I'm familiar with Ford stuff, I use a 72 F100 ignition switch for the double sided key and a 96 mustang light switch because you can buy the switch and plugin easily. Lots of personal choice involved in this. Make sure you get GXL rated wire. The good wire withstands heat so much better than the lowcost stuff. I use connectors that have heat shrink on them. They cost more but are weatherproof on the wire end and add some strength to the wire. The items you don't want trouble from are the ones that I spend a little more to get the best parts that are applicable to what I'm doing. :) Your results may vary. :)
     
  15. K13
    Joined: May 29, 2006
    Posts: 9,721

    K13
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    I will throw out another Rebel Wire endor*****t. Best technical service I have ever received from a company. They will literially stay on the phone with you as you work through issues in real time on your vehicle.
     
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  16. GordonC
    Joined: Mar 6, 2006
    Posts: 3,473

    GordonC
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Have used Painless and Rebel and would go with either again. Rebels support is first rate.
     
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  17. 52lomofo
    Joined: Jan 29, 2005
    Posts: 829

    52lomofo

    Using a haywire
     
  18. hrm2k
    Joined: Oct 2, 2007
    Posts: 5,458

    hrm2k
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I’ve done a couple of EZ Wire kits….worked great
     
  19. larry k
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
    Posts: 625

    larry k
    Member

    Rebel or painless , both are good and easy to work with !!!
     
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  20. lostn51
    Joined: Jan 24, 2008
    Posts: 3,317

    lostn51
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from Tennessee

    I’ve done only Dennis Carpenter original OEM kits and Painless and I highly recommend the Painless and picked up one in the cl***ifieds a few months ago for my convertible
     
  21. I have used Painless, Rebel and E-Z Wire. I don't see any difference between any of them as to the job they do or installation ease. I currently have 4 personal projects all coming up for total wiring. I went with E-Z Wire 12 circuit all black for them all and got a good discount purchasing them all at once. Currently doing my 53 F-100 and the same unit will be installed in my 40 Ford Coupe. Nothing to it. Ya just gotta have some basic understanding of the job at hand.
     
  22. X38
    Joined: Feb 27, 2005
    Posts: 17,498

    X38
    Member

    I all depends on which oil you're using.
     
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  23. bobss396
    Joined: Aug 27, 2008
    Posts: 18,736

    bobss396
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    I used a Kwik Wire 14-circuit kit in my Ford. GREAT instructions, easy to follow.
     
  24. Lucky for me I don't need "instructions", just forethought and common sense.
     
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  25. Oldstrk
    Joined: Jan 23, 2010
    Posts: 120

    Oldstrk
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    Haywire kits are good if you call you will talk to the owner very helpful.
     
  26. Hellfish
    Joined: Jun 19, 2002
    Posts: 6,802

    Hellfish
    Member

    Same here. Both are Made in the USA and have great tech support. The main advantages of Rebel Wire is a) cost, b) small company, c) you might talk to the owner in a tech call and d) they may be more familiar with simple hot rod builds than Painless.
     
  27. Coach Controls.
     
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  28. Hotrodderman
    Joined: Jun 18, 2006
    Posts: 189

    Hotrodderman
    Member

    I used a Centech on my roadster. I have installed a couple of Painless kits and a couple of Ron Francis kits. All nice.
     
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  29. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
    Posts: 6,355

    TagMan
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    I bought a Rebel 9+3 kit and will be installing it in a month or so. I built a few harnesses from scratch several years ago, but I'm getting older and decided to take the easier route this time. What I received from Rebel looks very good, but what sold me on their kit was the feedback from HAMBers that contacted their service for ***istance, if needed. I don't expect to need their help, but it's nice to know they'll be there, if needed.
     
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  30. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,955

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Ah, someone with some cl***. These kits are the bomb! I use nothing else, and I recommend nothing else. Most expensive! Most worth it! If you have a simple car to wire, buy a simple kit. If you are wiring a masterpiece, this is your huckleberry!
     

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