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The Art of Hotrod/Custom using A.I.

Discussion in 'The Antiquated' started by Stogy, Nov 19, 2023.

  1. Stogy
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    I am a graphic Artist so if I get an Image I like but there are issues I can edit it...That challenge has not changed and can be labor intensive...The Cad El Camino took several hours to modify using Photoshop
     
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    Nah I missed it but will take a look
     
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    The link is in the first post...I think you will be further moved or in awe at what was being created.
     
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    OIG.IdGOV4BKWfu019FUTK.jpeg

    I can't recall what I asked here...I think it was an image in watercolor of a 51 Chevrolet Fleetline alongside a Vulcan Bomber in a Hanger...it looks more a 53/4 and not a Fleetline...

    I many times associate Hotrod/Custom to Aviation hence a theme here...Pilot likes go fast kinda...

    Period note, The Avro Vulcan is a jet-powered, tailless, delta-wing, high-altitude, strategic bomber, which was operated by the Royal Air Force from 1956 until 1984.

    Many Jets are far older in origin than we imagine...

     
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    OIG (43).jpeg

    ...many years later...funny, between the weird characters/people and distorted details there's an apocalyptic/eariness sometimes...

    Many an old Caddy did meet this fate in the end...but even in the junkyard this one was special...

    I just noted the hood on the junker Caddy, it looks more 58ish but interestingly it molds it all together...
     
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    Hey there Stogy are you having fun yet Thanks for your ART
     
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    Over time this new technology may well find it difficult to define what might be the real-deal, or clever A.I.
     
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    I love this “artistry”. The plane is a rendition of a Spartan Executive but I need an explanation of the propeller.
     
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    Yes Jimmy it's typical of AI to do stuff like that both with content and details...and if they don't overcome these issues there will always have to be a graphic artist to make it right...
     
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    Even before this tech I was already feeling this way with photo editing...

    I wonder how many found images I have shared are legit...I share oddball Hotrods so many times they have details one may question if it was a done deal back then...as in low slung rides in the twenties or earlier at the car races...they stood out thats for sure...
     
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    Thanks D type, I was thinking about what you said, I guess it's mine as I was the driver for it's creation but it is a requested image that is a visual artwork but the medium is defined text. Strange but true and yes I enjoy the randomness of creation especially when it's Hamb friendly which is the period correctness I'm asking for...
     
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    AI_Zephr-1.jpg

    ;)...Prop done, I did a mod around the grille as well, made it a 3w, swooped the running board, it's a Custom in many ways as it's really a rendition of an internet scooped data translation of everything...it looks from a time long ago which helps set a mood...

     
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    :rolleyes:...interesting yard find...but some details are quirky...a cleanup in Photoshop could make it right...but it could pass as a jalopy...I suspect the popularity of images helps get better representations of desired image...as this is a pretty close rendering...

     
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    :rolleyes:...right at the Hamb cutoff but in...in a quirky way these are mildly off the mark which means if you ever want to see this in reality you be cut chop and welding to make it happen and that's Hotrod/Custom and what's in between...

    ..."create a very low angle photo of a old customized red vintage 60s flamed ford 1960 F100 pickup with old white walls and moon wheelcovers in a dusty sun lit barn with some stuff stored and board leaning against the wall"

    :rolleyes:...my formula for this one...
     
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    OIG (75).jpeg

    :rolleyes:...create an realistic image of a 2 old Hotrods in an old shop with an old man giving the ownership to a young man in 1958

    I think he's actually explaining how it sits there without a front axle...:D

    But again a suitable candidate as is or for a photoshop editing to make it right...

    Note the popularity of the Deuce in the definition of Hotrod to AI...

    When I get bias plys and period imagery out of this I'm happy...

     
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    57ChevBonneville2.jpg

    :rolleyes:...The Image above is my somewhat extensive Photoshop edit of the two AI images I requested below which while admirable they had shortcomings I felt needed to be addressed including some Custom touches to make it more Hamb Friendly...I used 2 of the 4 images rendered for my request of a 1957 Chev Convertible at Bonneville for this Inspiration...

    You can clic the smaller images to cycle through the images to see the changes made...;)


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    I know there are some of you who have access to these AI programs and can push them to do things similar or at a much more sophisticated level. I welcome and invite you to share Hamb Friendly AI Imagery created by you...

    Many of you participate in Threads using Photoshop and similar programs editing images for many reasons here as I do. This is a Study/Gallery of it's AI strengths and shortcomings creating our Hamb Period desires...


    ...I have taken to Editing stuff to bring some not all to a more favourable level of Camera/Hamb readiness so I also invite you to do the same if needed, as I consider it an Image making tool that can create with written or spoken wants.
     
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    The most intriguing thing is that AI understands light (source), shadows and reflections. The great hot rod artists (Tom Fritz, Ruben Duran etc) "know" light/shadow/reflection...looks like AI knows it too.
     
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    It is powerful in giving an attempt at what your asking of it and certain areas are very well covered...there's enough images floating around on the world wide web that is can decipher and apply that as part of the characteristics...

    Jack I encourage you to give Ryan's Thread 'Zeltango' a look...it is truly interesting to see the power of the program he was using and Zeltango's as well. He is a Hamber by the way as well...

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/zeltango.1303529/
     
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    I've looked at that thread...I like your stuff better.:cool:. "Z's" work, while amazing, seems to be just about the cars and is a little flat....while your renderings invoke real emotion...which is what "art" is all about.
     
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    Detr_Autor.jpg

    ...create an image autorama detroit 1958...

     
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    OIG (76).jpeg

    create a shop full of vintage car and hotrod models some in unopened boxes

    :rolleyes:...I think this is kind of like a vintage 60s Model experience especially when you look back when they Illustrated the boxes rather than used photographs...many looked a close likeness while others were a little hokey...

    One thing I note with this tech is it doesn't use language that makes sense often...again one could take this and correct that but as a collage of sorts it's not the main focus anyway...

     
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    OIG (77).jpeg

    This captured the vintage vibe quite well...completely void of modern tires, rims and even depicts Hamb Period Hotrod styling...

     
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    I used a different free AI program for this unedited requested image...
     
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    OIG (66).jpeg

    Bing AI...a unedited request for a 65 GTO and a Falcon racing at the drags...interesting image that's certainly passable but obviously could use some serious editing...such as drivers...perhaps a reduction in rubber smoke since neither us front wheel drive...the vehicles in the background need not be there...and the venting across the aft hood on the Goat could use an edit to remove from the scoop...
     
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    I wonder why it has such a hard time making wire wheels that look right. Every one I've seen looks like it has bent spokes.
     
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    It seems to struggle with many things...that was a different program that did that coupe...so perhaps it uses the information it draws from more accurately...the other thing to consider is it's processing 4 images from your description in generally less than one minute...
     
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    OIG (69).jpeg

    Another unedited from the 56 series...


     
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