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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by onefish, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. onefish
    Joined: Apr 11, 2005
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    Bolted up the suspension on the willys today and would like some input on channeling the body down. How do you guys feel about the stance as it sits now? More channel? Less channel? Should I go gasser and move the front springs above the axle? Rake forward more? I am open to criticism. Any suggestions on motor pacement? Thanks.
     

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  3. onefish
    Joined: Apr 11, 2005
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    That's kind of how the frame sits with the springs and such. The only way to go lower on the front gets into dropped axles. That's why I was suggesting gasser. My next one will be a suicide tube frame sitting low ready for the salt. Anyone else?
     
  4. onefish
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    Oh, the wheels are just rollers. So how bout suggestions on those also.
    Slicks? Dirt? Street?
     
  5. The Brudwich
    Joined: Oct 3, 2005
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    Stance is tricky. It's not just how high your car sits off the ground, but a number of things working together. To me, stance and proportions go hand in hand. A good looking ride height depends a lot upon the chop, the size of your tires, the size of your engine, the length of your wheelbase, the shape of you body, lines on the body, lots of stuff. Some cars look good low, some don't. Some cars look good canted up, some look good raked down. It all depends. Study cars that you like and see how these elements work together. From there, it's really up to you to develop a vision for your car. Nothing anybody's gonna tell you is gonna make much sense without one.

    So decide upon a look. The channel is fine, the frame rails are concealed, that's all you need. Don't channel the car any further. Kick up the back of the frame to lower the rear of the car. Suicide the front axle and/or step up the front of the frame to drop the front of the car down. There's no reason you can't convert to a model A style single transverse leaf spring set up. Don't let this be the reason for not lowering your car if you want something low. Researching frame design and chassis set up on the board might help you out a bit in these respects.

    Hope this helps.
     
  6. 50Fraud
    Joined: May 6, 2001
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    More channel, no. More rake, yes. Gasser, no.
     
  7. Preacher
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    go for the gasser :)
     
  8. Nick32vic
    Joined: Jul 17, 2003
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    its kind of hard to tell you what to do, becuase its your car. Its usualy a lot easier to have the finished car pictured in your head so you have a goal to work for. When we where setting up my chassis and rake and ride height, etc. I already knew what wheels and tires i was gonna use.

    Now, if that was MY car, I would probably look into a dropped axle for the front. Maybe not quite a 4 inch drop because with your parrallell leaf's you dont wanna mess up your scrub line. Depending on how low the front gets you may or may not wanna lower the back a little bit.

    For wheels and tires? I would probably use 15's all around. Little tires in front, tall tires in back.

    I think a channel job always looks good if the bottom of the doors/rockers are flush with the bottom of the frame. yours looks good.

    This is all just my opinion though. Im a sucker for a bad ass hot rod rake.
     
  9. onefish
    Joined: Apr 11, 2005
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    Thanks for the replies.
    Yes, I know what you mean by it's my car and I'm gonna do what I want with it anyway. The springs are new so I think I'm going with the parallel setup on this one. I have a 34 Chevy Truck to slam for my next project. I've been having a hard time finding the right wheels. I just got the fronts and they don't fit all the way up to the hub because of the center hole size. I guess I need to make some spacers. I like the look of the artillery wheels but I'm not sure about them with slicks. I am beginning to think the 283 is too small for the car when thinking of scale. Need to find a high rise intake or something. Maybe a big block.
     
  10. Nick32vic
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    is the 283 for this car? I have a 302 in my 32 and its by no means a race car but it is quick. I have seen some nasty 283's actually, just gotta be built right. Hey, if you need a really nice dual quad edelbrock tunnel ram with carbs, i just so happen to have one for sale!
     
  11. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    You've got lots of spring arch showing, and I say there's no way to tell what car will sit like!
    Put a stack of cement blocks roughly equivalent to your engine choice up front, a few in cab to simulate trans, interior, and livewear, and a gastank worth in back, then look. The car is just too far from running weight, and a LOT of the spring arch will go away when it's complete!
     
  12. willys_truck
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    Unless you plan on running fenders, it would not be a gasser. No,fenders = altered.
     
  13. oddball Stony
    Joined: Jun 6, 2006
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    from Toronto

    The heck with the gasser, stick an Eldo 500 clip in the front and the back and join them with your channeled frame section, instant crazy, and maybe 4 wheel steering if you can swing it.

    you could make a really cool curvatious frame if you left the spring heights where they are and dropped the frame in the middle, print the picture, get the scissors, cut and paste till you like it, I've got paper cut outs of lots of cars and it's way cheaper than the real thing and it's to scale(sometimes)

    Stony
     

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