Hello Everyone, Is anyone currently using one of these or have used one in the past? If so what did you think of it VS the "Normal" type rotisserie? http://www.rollerhoop.com/index.html I have used the normal ones over the years & I see some advantages to this one, especially th efact that it mounts where the suspension normally mounts, so there is no chance of body twist or sag. There is no need to brace the door openings. I do not currently have any type as the last couple of cars I have done on one, it was borrowed from a good friend who was not using it during those times. I want to purchase one & this type intrigued me. God Bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
I am getting ready to build my own. Got the hoops so far from a construction site that used them as big spool for electrical line that goes under ground.
I think they would have there place but som roof or quarter panel work might be difficult…not that the standard rotisserie difficult in it’s own way…
Never being around either type, so I am just asking, how do you balance them out? Wouldn't the wagon being shown have all the weight at the bottom as it's setting now? How would you ever get it to set half way or even on it's top?
Ive never used one,but if you were doing any type of sandblasting ,would the sand get in the roller tracks,might make it harder to roll over?.It sure would make it easier to detail the bottom side of a project. harvey
Never seen one like it . seems that two people may be required to rotate as the weight wouldnt be balanced at certain degrees....also you have to avoid those hoops or get banged and bruised....
Not trying to be a smart @ss, but all these questions are answered in the link I provided for the product. There is also additional information if you click on the "About Us" tab, then click of the roller hoop tab on the restoration shops website! ONE man can turn this, you initially balance it by the struts you make to attach your particular type of body. You can actually us your foot to rotate it in small increments. The creator specifically states that when he arrives at the sand blaster, he rolls it just on the hoops & that the guy doing the blasting loves it because he can easily rotate it by himself saving the ody shop labor money. Was hoping someone had one that could give 1st hand experience! A friend had a good idea to call them & ask if they had sold any in my area that I may visit, but being a transporter all over the country I guess it would not have to be just in my area! God Bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
I'm going thru my first experience with a rotissere. Had to make brackets to adapt it to the body I want to rotate. Luckily I had plenty of scrap steel to make the mounts with, but its going to vary with the type of car being rotated. I'll probably find out in the next day or so if I got it right. As for the rings you are showing, I think they would probably work OK once the car is in them, but to me it appears that getting the car mounted in them might be a difficult process, and is going to require making brackets to mount/adapt to them. Maybe I am overlooking something here and maybe there is an easy way to suspend the car high enuff to center it in the rings. Once in the rings, how will you know its balanced and perfectly centered? There isn't anyway to adjust it if you get it wrong........is there? If the weight isn't centered, could it get away from you as you start to roll it? Not trying to be negative, but those are the things I would consider before deciding.
@ekimneirbo I appreciate ALL opinions & ideas that I may have not thought about concerning this or any rotisserie! I am not one to ever be offended by others comments. It would be stupid of me to believe that I know everything, even after being in the hobby for about 45 years! Like I said in a previous post....I have used the normal types & just see this as something that puts less stress on the body (especially a unibody type car) because on these type of cars, it bolts in the same place as the suspension does. You definitely have to make your own struts to the body, as every body type will be different. The company says they may start producing ones for the most popular types of bodies in the future. The way I read the information is that you set the body up just a bit lower than center & then you can rotate it yourself in small increments. It has (as I read it) a foot pedal that lets off the brake & reapplies it. Of course if I am reading it properly! If I do end up buying this or any other type, I will modify it to use 8 inch steel casters with nylon bands OR pneumatic tires! God Bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
There’s a guy that’s usually at the Jefferson swap meet that vends something like that. I think he calls it the whirlygig, or something close to that. Been there for years. He has had the same Ford Ranger on it as far back as I remember.
Gets my vote! Buy, build or pay someone to build one to YOUR requirements, you will thank yourself. When you're done with it you can rent it out and get some $$$ back out of it. I hemm'd and haw'd and finally built this so I could work on the underside of my roadster. Not like the commercially available ones but I wanted something a bit different (more portable), I bought a large one inch square hoop from a trailer fabrication shop, they use them to build the front of enclosed trailers. I didn't think one would be strong enough at each end and did not want to pay for two hoops so I cut it in quarters and welded two pair side by side making the equivalent of two 1x2 half hoops.
A You Tube Video I found showing how easily you can change from casters to flat or back! God bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
Bill, I'm glad you take my comments as intended.......to help, even if my suppositions turn out to be wrong. To me the main thing is finding the center of gravity so that you can position a car in the correct location within the circle. How does someone hold the body in the air while making the mounting brackets? If the cars center location is not just right, how does someone adjust it? Or do they have to make more brackets and try again. As I said, I'm using one of the other "twirler" types and making my own brackets......but it has adjustment built in. I suppose with the "circle/hoop" type, someone could support a body from the side with a forklift while installing the hoops, but I don't see how the average guy can do it. Maybe I am the one overlooking something.
@ekimneirbo for someone like myself it is pretty simple, because I have a 2 post lift, but I understand not everybody does! I think it can be done with a floor jack & 2 sets of jack stands without too much trouble. The center of gravity is definitely important, but because of the foot brake, you would have to be WAY off to have any real issues. You still have to make your struts for each individual body type just like the twirler & yes, we have probably all had to remake one or two before we were comfortable with the setup Did you catch the You Tube video I added earlier today? God Bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
While no experience with this particular product, I have witnessed this type of system used in the construction of rotary dryers and large heat exchangers. The principle is the same, and they work very well as long as a few rules of set up are followed. They must have a fairly balanced load side to side. Triangular bracing as seen in the video is required on at least one of the hoops. Another method I saw was tie bars from one hoop to the other. Getting the body up in the air to install the hoops could be a challenge, but doable for most if planned out. I would think this product would work very well for a uni-body car. Because it requires custom fabrication each time, it is not for everybody, but somebody with your skill would find it a good product.
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when you take your project out to the media blaster you leave the Roller Base units in your shop! the blaster doesnt need them he just rolls it on the ground, such a simple system!
The Roller Hoop is such a simple system to use and easy to learn we provide a 26-page hand book illustrating all the steps and procedures to get you up and Rolling no matter what kind of vehicle! be sure to visit the web sight www.rollerhoop.com
Finding the CL is EZ on a sedan it is 33 inches off the floor to the top of the rocker panel threshold for almost any car! then of course side to side equal distances. if convertible 36 inches is the right location. using a 2 post hoist is a great item to use but we at our shop just use jack stands and wood blocks to get the body up them map out the jigs. it is all explained and illustrated in our 26-page handbook and hour-long DVD
There are so many benefits of the Roller Hoop over the standard end mount units, you wouldn't fully understand until you actually use one, I was just hoping to eliminate a few issues I had with an end mount unit So this is what I developed and it ended up being way better and much more efficient and safer than our other end units. so we decided to offer them to others now we have over 520 units around the globe! that 65 Chevelle wagon worked out really well on the Roller Hoop we did back in 2010 and it appeared on the cover and a feature article in Super Chevy mag.
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