1952-59 Ford 1956 Mercury Monterey Frame Notch ???

Good morning. I have a question, I have a 1956 Mercury Monterey and I'm installing a 79 Ford 302 and a C6 Transmission.Big Question is do you have to put a notch in the front crossmember for a 302 Ford engine..I tried 2 different styles of engine mounts and the engine will drop on the mounts but the front sump pan won't clear the crossmember unless you notch it

 

I had 302 ford's in a 55 and 56 mercs and never had to do anything with the cross member for oil pan to clear

 

Okay..I'm using a 79 302 front sump oil pan.1 set of mounts I had put te engine back to the firewall and if I switched them it would put it into the radiator and the mounts I have now the pan is hitting the crossmember..I did get the windshield cut though

 

I just put a 302 in 56 medalist and didn’t need to notch the cross member. I used a front sump pan. It is close but didn’t have to notch it. I used fox mustang mounts and had to open up the factory mounting holes a bit. But no notch.

 

Yes.That is what I'm going thru. The pan is about about a quarter of a inch off the crossmember and the drain plug is right on top of the crossmember

 

Won't a rear sump pan work ?

 

From what I have seen on this site,people are saying that the front sump oil pan is needed and the driver side frame pad has been slotted also

 

Personally, I would just change pans. My pans drain isn’t over the crossmember it’s 68 mustang pan.

 

I also would run rear sump which I’ll do next time I got to pull the motor

 

Do you know the motor mount parts number that you used. I tried the 2765 and the 2766 and I have the 2220 and the 2221 early fox body mounts

 

This is how I slotted the mount in my 56. I used a grinder.

 

Yes sir. Mine is the same

 

What side is that

 

I don’t know the Mount number off hand but it’s early fox body. And like I said my oil pan is probably 1/8” from the crossmember.

 

Drivers side.

 

You may have the numbers confused. AutoZone has SG-2725 and SG-2726 motor mounts for an '86 Mustang 5.0. These mounts work for a Ford (and I would ***ume Merc). May want to pick up a set and compare them to yours.

 

I used a 302 front stump pan from a 1971 Maverick, 1966 Mustang 289 motor mounts, and a small adapter between the frame pads and the motor mounts.

 

That’sa great idea

 

Okay thanks..will do

 

Yes I tried those and it set the engine close to the firewall BUT the oil pan was close to the crossmember..I might try them again

 

Good evening to everyone..I'm not a Ford guy.I have a buddy who is....The 78 302 I have comes from a truck and THE OIL PAN IS THE PROBLEM.He told me to get a front sump pan for a car and it will drop on the frame pads perfectly

 

Yes Sir, the truck pan is a six quart and the car pan is five. Also, the car pan should have the drain plug on the side rather the rear of the sump. So the car pan should solve the fitment problem.
James

 

Did you make that adapter?

 

Yes, a 1x1" square steel tube, a piece of 3/8" id steel tube and two 3/8 diameter 3/4" long bolts. Drilled and welded the bolts to the square tube using the same center to center distance as the original motor mounts. Drilled a cross hole in the square tube that fit the od of the steel tube cut to the length necessary to fit inside the Mustang motor mounts. Did not weld at this point. Installed the bolts to the stock frame mounts then set engine in place and installed cross bolt in motor mounts. This allowed me to move the engine forward and back till I got the firewall clearance I wanted then welded the round tube to the square tube. Was quite easy actually, the Mustang engine mounts are very inexpensive and you can find them almost anywhere. Also this required no modification to the frame mounts whatsoever so I could return easily to the Y-Block if I ever wanted to. Hope this all makes sense. Mark

 

The engine has a C4 transmission behind it, here is the adapter plate I had to make to mount the 66 Mustang C4 transmission mount to the stock crossmember. Just a flat steel plate with some holes drilled in it.

 

Happy New Year. I have the Car oil pan now. I've been jammed working..I also bought a new oil pump and screen and also timing set,chain was sooo slack I could take it off the gear and it was plastic with 4 broken teeth

 

Good Evening or Good Morning. Finally got my 302 and C6 transmission in..I used the B2220 and B2221 engine mounts and I have the 5 quart car oil pan and the engine dropped in PERFECT!!!! no notching crossmember and have good clearance for the radiator..here's the new. Oil pan

 

Glad you figures it out! Really feels good when it just drops in after all the frustrating **** that happens first, makes you do a head slap like "why didn't someone think of that first".

 

Now the fun can begin.