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Technical Trying to identify Hurst Shifter 628284 - OEM?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by MrCreosote, Dec 11, 2023.

  1. MrCreosote
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    EDIT: THIS IS WRONG:
    Does not say "Hurst" or "Competition/Plus" - only that 6 digit number.

    It does say "Hurst Competition/Plus" and the 6 digit number
    NOTE: My other "Hurst Mystery Shifter" has nothing on it anywhere (pics a few replies from here)

    I can't find any reference to it on the internet.
    Thee doesn't seem to be an obvious reference site.

    EDIT 2: Both of these shifters were acquired in the lath '60s thru early '70s.

    Also have another "Hurst" shifter which has NO markings on it, just what appears to be a "L" where you'd expect an OEM part number. The shift lever out the bottom have part numbers 2130 and 2131. Nothing on the stick.

    upload_2023-12-11_16-41-22.jpeg upload_2023-12-11_16-42-28.jpeg
     
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  2. mgtstumpy
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    I searched Shifter doc (Hurst shifters online) and couldn't locate anything that corresponds with above. All the Hurst shifters I've seen are embossed (Stamped) accordingly. Mr. Gasket or another brand?
    Hurst shifter alignment.jpg
     
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  3. Mr48chev
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    This is where we gotta have good photos to be able to do any ID. Meaning that some eyes on here (not mine) know what to look for to pick up the clues as to what the shifter started out at.
    Two levers out the bottom means that it is a 3 speed shifter as 4 speed shifters have 3 levers = 1-2, 3-4 & reverse.
     
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  4. HEATHEN
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    I've got a four speed shifter that looks like a Hurst, but says nothing on it. I'll take some pictures of it this evening.
     
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  6. MrCreosote
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    I just posted the "numbered mystery"

    Should I put pics of the No-Name? Why not (!) haha

    You can see on the 1st pic an "L" stamped (frankly, it doesn't even look like a properly formed L - more like a "proof mark."

    My other No Name mystery shifter:
    upload_2023-12-11_16-44-31.jpeg upload_2023-12-11_16-44-48.jpeg upload_2023-12-11_16-45-52.jpeg
     
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  7. Mid 80’s chevy trucks had an o/d 4spd with a shifter that looked a lot like a hurst. I don’t remember the markings but they didn’t have hurst on them
     
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  8. Here’s a knock off that could pass for a hurst?
    44C27D94-762D-47BB-BAFB-CD0020686D2A.jpeg
     
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  9. DDDenny
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    Hurst made a Mystery shifter.
     
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  10. patsurf
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    wasn't that only the 3 spd?
     
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  11. MrCreosote
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    Both of these were acquired in the early 70's
     
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  12. HEATHEN
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    I've got two factory shifters from the Chevy truck New Process overdrive transmissions, and they're both Hurst.
     
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  13. The six digit numbers on Hurst shifters are the serial numbers. Patent # was issued 11-9-1965.
     
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  14. loudbang
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    Correct :)
     
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  15. Maybe mine were too? I live in the rust belt so they were probably crusty
     
  16. The Mopar ones had Hurst shifters as well.
     
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  17. In_The_Pink
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    You might try using the stamped number(s) on the levers to ID the shifter's original usage: https://4speedconversions-com.3dcartstores.com/hurst_levers.html

    With the fore and aft limit stops, it looks all the world like an aftermarket (not factory) Hurst shifter, and the bolt-on shifter stick (vs. a bayonet style slide-in end) might be a clue, too.
     
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  18. MrCreosote
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    I may be wrong, but I thought I saw a housing stamping that was on the inside!

    If the limit bolts are indicative of aftermarket, then it's just a Hurst commodity - I don't think old aftermarket Hurst's have any premium (or do they?)
    I may call Holly/Hurst back and maybe I can get the guy I talked to - he was doing Hurst support for 30 years so he knows stuff. We talked about OE and AfterM

    I did find 4speedconversions but couldn't find any info on OE versions. Maybe they can identify that 6-digi number.
     
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  19. MCjim
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    This may be a Hurst Indy, looks like a Competition+, sold as a universal shifter...

    The Hurst® Indy® Universal 4-speed shifter is an economical kit for freshening up the shifts of your Muncie 4-speed (451/452/453), Borg/Warner T-10 (410) or Richmond Borg/Warner Super T-10 (454) transmissions. Some fit and fabrication maybe necessary with these universal shifters.

    I have one, but don't know where I put it.
     
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  20. Joe H
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    Factory installed Hurst shifter did not have the limit stops, the Competition Hurst did.
     
  21. MrCreosote
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    Great to know! I have 4 I'm IDing but this is the only one with the 6-digit - and it is in the place where the OE manu put their part number. GM had 7 digits and Ford had longer - all the place where this 6-digit is.
    QUESTION: Did Hurst put that 6-digit anywhere else like inside the body? or did they only put it on very early models?
     
  22. MrCreosote
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    I assume you're talking abut my No Name "Mystery" shifter?
     
  23. In_The_Pink
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    Look closer. There is a partial "2" (I think I see one when I enlarge the pic) on the same face as the "L". Straight down from the pivot bushing/hole, though it's very faint.
     
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  24. Are Hurst shifters like Corvette engines?
     
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  25. No. It's Hurst STICKERS that are like Corvette valve covers.
     
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  26. HEATHEN
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    However, every factory Hurst shifter I've seen has small pilot holes where the shift stops would be. I've drilled out several and added them.
     
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  27. HEATHEN
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    20231212_190415.jpg 20231212_190420.jpg Looks every bit like a Hurst, but has no I.D. of any sort.
     
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