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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by burl, Dec 18, 2023.

  1. burl
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    Trying to find additional pics and information on a car I'm trying to replicate. I pulled this image from Pat Ganahls web site. There's a little information but not much. Trying to find out if there's advanced google searches that would help. Thanks in advance.

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  2. krylon32
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    Built a couple chassis for this type of car and the trick to get the look is stretching the front and shortening the rear. The choice of nose is also important. What your building always looks good with a Whippet grille shell. I like 500-16's on 35 wires on the front and 700-18's on widened 32 wires on the rear but steelie's look good also. The one in your top picture looks to be a 23 T body?
     
  3. Nacifan
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    Hey Burl,
    I think a small correction might be in order here Sir. Let's go with "Lakes Modifieds" As most started out on the Dry Lakes of Calf and Nevada both Pre War, During the War and a few years after the war. Most look like they came it 2 styles, if you will. 1) Stock width bodies and 2) narrowed bodies. Lots of Model "T" bodies but others were used as well. Most bodies ended after the back of the front seat. Again mostly "T" frames but Model "A" stuff and '32s and the other makes can be found. Attached are a few from my files. 142F16DE-3F6B-4D83-B919-C6092E624117.jpeg 298611970_5229229113780619_2567525835826460270_n.jpg 312150987_5457235320979996_4455353494759882017_n.jpg 162432866_10220210016862501_8805020451933960808_n.jpg 1-18-c.jpg 12lov.jpg 1940.jpg
    Can't wait to follow your build ....I've heard them called "Go-Jobs" too.....
     
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  4. alchemy
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    That’s a 25 and earlier T cowl, early Ford front wire wheel, and not a Ford on the rear. I don’t see a split front wishbone like on your replica. Three exhaust pipes makes me think it’s a Ford flathead.

    How exact are you wanting to get?
     
  5. burl
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    those are some great pics
    thanks
     
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  6. -Brent-
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    What first caught my eye about the first image is how short the seating area is, too.
     
  7. burl
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    something similar. Building this out of spare parts i have laying around. Started out wanting to build a lighter car for racing some of the hill climbs and flathead drags and needed a theme. I really like the profile of the car in the picture.
    I do have several sets of wire wheels that I will use and have some smaller diameter tires for the front in the mail. The car in the pic has a flathead but all my racing has been in the banger class.
    Was really looking for help on finding information on the car more than anything.
     
  8. burl
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    I have this grill shell i planed on using not sure what its off of. IMG_8097front.jpg IMG_8096 pair.jpg
     
  9. Tim
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    Those are both pretty damn cool! Looking forward to following along
     
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  10. dumprat
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    Those are both Dodge bodies! I’ve never seen one in such nice shape.
     
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  11. oj
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    One signature thing about a modified is the front axle is ahead of the radiator. That has some advantage in that when doing cowl steering the tie rod has enough room to run over the top of the frame just in front of the radiator. This can be packaged without looking like a RR.
     
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  12. twenty8
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    Is this acheived by actual frame modifications, or simply by mounting the engine, transmission and body more rearward on the standard frame?
     
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  13. oj
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    Lots of thing get shifted, you get a little here and a little there, your eye is necessary to keep the proportions just right. You move the front axle ahead by supporting the spring to the radius rods, you can actually buy brackets that will do this.
     
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  14. twenty8
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    Is the frame usually shortened?
     
  15. dwollam
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    A Model A frame is already quite short compared to the Dodg Brothers frame. '17-'23 DB w/b is 114" compared to Model A 103.5" .
    Those are looking great @burl !

    Dave
     
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  16. ricky_tbird
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    I would also say that the bodies are often narrowed. Look at where the frame rails are lined up with the body in some of those pix. Its tough to tell but it almost looks like in your original picture the body is narrowed also and inline with the frame.
     
  17. burl
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    Wasn't able to find any more info on the car or driver but have been getting stuff done. db rear.jpg db front.jpg db steer.jpg db steer 2.jpg db orn.jpg db orn 2.jpg db side cover.jpg
     
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  19. dwollam
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    Sweet!

    Dave
     
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  20. oj
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    Love the steering wheel, I'd be stringing that one.
     
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  21. Unkl Ian
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    You can scale the wheelbase, from the original pic, if you know one dimension.

    Looks like the hood, overlaps the cowl.
    And the cockpit is SHORT.
     
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  22. Tim
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    You made that radiator topper? Hot damn! Good job!
     
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  23. Unkl Ian
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    Perhaps an "artillery wheel" ?
     
  24. akkhotrod
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    I always liked this

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  25. burl
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    I've made one for every one of my builds. Got a little carried away on this one.
    Thanks
     
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  26. burl
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    I couldn't find any more data but the pic i posted. I could guesstimate the size of the rear tires and scale it from that.
     
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  27. Nacifan
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    First I just love this build. Please post more more. Next, here's a few I found on the Great and Powerful hamb.
    The first "narrow-body" may very well be my fav especially this all the welding scars !! Next is an additional 3-Springer with a sweet bobbed 32 grill. The last one looks like an old "lakes go-job" gussied-up for the street show circuit in mid -fifties.
     
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  28. Unkl Ian
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    I would use the front wheels, if they are early Ford.
    That makes them a known size, instead of guessing on the rear.
     
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  29. Tim
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    Alright I got a little nerdy about it and start scaling off a “known” measurement

    the front wheel is most likely a 16” 1935 ford wire wheel. Push that blue measurement over to the back wheel and it shows that that wheel is like an 18” 1932 ford or Lincoln wheel, I think it’s a wire wheel with the lyons type wheel cover. It’s a slightly different style than lyons but that’s the most familiar one so that’s why I called it that.

    The pink lines are that same 16” measurement, lined up off the top and bottom you have some over lap. Based off common tire sizes of the era I’m gonna say that tire is 31.5” tall.

    I want to say that an 8.20? Or 8:50/18 lands around there. The 18” wheel sizes shift around in a way that doesn’t make since to me so I can’t say that’s the size for sure but you can google “850-18 tire diameter” and you’ll get a website like coker that will confirm the height.

    the red measurement was trying to take the height of the tire and match it to a body part you could reference.

    closest seems the door front to back of the bucket. Which I guess if you have a different body
    You’re building it still helps with figuring out proportions. Untitled_Artwork.jpeg Any how. Hope that helps.
     
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  30. burl
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    Awesome pics thanks for posting.
    When it comes to google search, I'm a points guy living in an electronic ignition world ha-ha
     
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