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Hot Rods Side steer sling shot some folk should be banned from hot rods

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Kiwi 4d, Jan 5, 2024.

  1. Kiwi 4d
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    More BS Ahh the gift that keeps on giving surprises….. Went to pull off the wheel to install the new sling shot arm on the right and thought hmm those look like trailer wheel studs , su****ious. Sure enough they were , with no locating shoulder , and welded to the back of the hub. Well all were tacked on at some point but some had sought freedom from the constraints of a weld. Plus I believe the drum face of the hub has been turned down , and hub has had a different stud pattern at some stage. So the drum was free to slop about at will on the hub and consequently has hogged out all the stud holes . Wheel bearings were frightening worn , all at a claimed 80 mph in the drags 1/8 mile. I now consider all these parts junk. My parts stash is getting hammered, so seriously need to restock
    IMG_2518.jpeg IMG_2519.png IMG_2517.jpeg IMG_2515.jpeg More BS . Went to pull off the wheel to install the new sling shot arm on the right and thought hmm those look like trailer wheel studs , su****ious. Sure enough they were , with no locating shoulder , and welded to the back of the hub. Well all were tacked on at some point but some had sought freedom . Plus I believe the drum face of the hub has been turned down , and hub has had a different stud pattern at some stage. So the drum was free to slop about at will on the hub and consequently has hogged out all the stud holes . Wheel bearings were frightening worn , all at a claimed 80 mph in the drags 1/8 mile. I now consider all these parts junk. My parts stash is getting hammered, so seriously need to restock.
     
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  2. 26 T Ford RPU
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    May have been the same family that built my RPU back in the day.o_O:rolleyes: JW
     
  3. aussie57wag
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    I am not surprised that was done in the USA. Every car I see come to Australia from the USA that has been modified is woeful. They all need significant work to get made safe for the road in Australia.
     
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  4. alchemy
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    Sorry for the **** that was unloaded on you, but please be ***ured that not all Americans build cars like that. Most of us have a conscience, and want to live to see another birthday.
     
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  6. Frames
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    I used a stock Vega steering box. NO bump steer. Horizontal drag link and horizontal radius rod. Horizontal [ double shear ] steering arm. Street rod not built by Kurtis. 2 Goodguys S E national awards stickers. TOP FIVE trophy 2024-01-09 11.29.37-2.jpg and Street Rodder magazine top 10. 2023-11-12 10.50.14-2.jpg
     
  7. Kiwi 4d
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    Risking killing yourself or the family coming the other way just to clearance a grease ******. Ludicrous. Apart from the brake shoes being glazed and covered in oil I don’t know how long it would be before the crack let the lining off the shoe.
    IMG_2528.jpeg IMG_2530.jpeg IMG_2530.jpeg
     
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  8. Rickybop
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    Somebody thought that bending the drag link fixes the misalignment.
     
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  9. RodStRace
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    To put your mind at ease slightly, that lining wasn't going anywhere for a while with rivets.
    Not great, but not the concern that a lot of the others part add up to.
     
  10. Kiwi 4d
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    Someone went to a lot of trouble to make the goofy pitman arm milling the slot into it. Anyway it’s all a distant memory now. IMG_2534.jpeg IMG_2537.jpeg
     
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  11. 26 T Ford RPU
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    With the old set up, did you bounce on the front just to see how much the steering kicked?
    Say Hi to Andrew for me. :D JW
     
  12. Happydaze
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    That relief on the steering arm is alarming! It looked bad I the original pic, but now, yikes? And the irony, well in my mind, is that not only was it for a mere grease ******, as you've said, but a grease ****** that doesn't appear to have been used! Might just be the original pic though. Anyway, bullet dodged!

    Chris
     
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  14. Kiwi 4d
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    Yes we did try the bounce test ,and yes horrible bump steer.
     
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  15. 26 T Ford RPU
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    ''Oh no that can't be!!! It goes great on every surface''..........Yeah Right :rolleyes: JW
     
  16. The37Kid
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    Not that it matters, but how much weight was gained with sleeving the lightening holes in the wishbones? [​IMG]
     
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  17. 26 T Ford RPU
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    Come on Bob, they add the cool factor so extra weight will never come into it.;):rolleyes::D JW
     
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  18. Kiwi 4d
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    And the sleeves are just tacked in . I don’t believe the holes will be accepted down under. Maybe?
     
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  19. Ziggster
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    Some messed up ingenuity going on, but I like the fact he used socket head cap screws, you know for strength and looks…Lol!
     
  20. GlassThamesDoug
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    Lots of opportunity, it can only get better.
     
  21. cfmvw
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    Scary stuff! Years ago my son and I saw a '32 Ford that was cobbled together (to put it nicely): lots of really ****py welding (holes, slag, almost no penetration) for a hacked-in Mustang IFS. Wiring was mostly lamp cord and masking tape, so the driver had the option between getting killed in an accident or an electrical fire.
     
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  22. alchemy
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    Is this car (OP’s) the cabriolet that also had a couple gallons of bondo holding the body together?
     
  23. sunbeam
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    And then we have the crazy Aukermann of front tie rod using a ford axle
     
  24. Kiwi 4d
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    Ah yes good spotting @alchemy
     
  25. bangngears
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    ok, lets all come up with a 20 question test one must p*** before they are allowed to build a car. You first.
     
  26. Kevin Lee
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    I think the correct plural might be "doofi"?
     
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  27. RodStRace
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    I'd start with a typical high school auto shop safety test. All of them I remember had at least twenty questions.
    Full metal shop safety test if you are welding, heating and bending, or otherwise going from stock to modified suspension brake and steering.
    Those alone would fail some of the stuff I see, and p*** a good percentage of people that may not have gone through such cl***es but have experience.
    I get what you are trying to say, that if you own a chunk of machinery you can cut, bang and do whatever you want. I also do not want another gov't en***y watching over our shoulders. So my answer is partly in jest to what I'd consider your rhetorical question.

    Ask any professional mechanic and they will have a story that backs up the "if you worked on it first"
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  28. Frames
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    No bump steer? I was going to comment like so many experts here on the HAMB. I will let them comment.
     
  29. Beanscoot
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    And notice the dog leg on the upper shock mount.
     
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  30. 26 T Ford RPU
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    One expert to another. You may notice that how its sitting it has no weight on the frame and the amount of travel in the front end when loaded isn't a **** load, and yes i have done the bounce test and the steering wheel may move only an 1/8-1/4'' max and in NZ we have bad roads, there is no steering bump or kick of any sort and i'm not saying that like the cowl steer loving lot. JW
     

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