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Technical Help Needed: Template for '41 Willys Coupe Rear Tube Bumper Brackets

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Wlyzman41, Feb 11, 2024.

  1. Wlyzman41
    Joined: Jun 3, 2022
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    Wlyzman41
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    Hi,
    I'm still hoping that someone on this site has had to fabricate rear bumper tube brackets for a coupe that would pass under the body. The original notches for the brackets have been filled in, so they will have to be straight, then have a curve to do so. I've tried to make a pattern out of cardboard, but not doing well with that plan. I sure would appreciate some help with this project!
    Thanks,
    Charlie
     
  2. You might try sending Quain Stott a PM, he built his 40 Willys & Gene Ctomer's 40 Willys and both had tube bumpers so he may be able to help. HRP
     
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  3. Wlyzman41
    Joined: Jun 3, 2022
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    Wlyzman41
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    Thanks for the contact info!
     
  4. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
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    DDDenny
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    from oregon

    Cardboard is for sure one of the needed components that I posted on your original post.
    The problem is that the shape you are dealing with and using cardboard makes it a bit unwieldy and many times, a job like this has to be done in stages, sometimes even done over more than once.
    I've learned (from struggling) that trying to make a cardboard template like this in one piece can be a losing battle because you usually find yourself starting completely over (many times).
    On larger projects, I've found it best to have a supply of heavy duty cardboard and a BIG roll of duct tape (the cheap stuff is fine) on hand before even starting, this way you can try a better shape and cut off the bad section and tape the new section on and test fit it again.
    The next key component is 1/4" Masonite sheet stock, it can really pay off to put in the time to transfer the cardboard pattern onto the Masonite and cut it to shape for a final fit as it is much easier to handle and it maintains its shape.
    I built a 2x3" rectangular steel "back half" subframe for my 67 Nova this way, these are a unibody car with no actual frame, just reinforced sheetmetal sections.
    I sent the Masonite pattern to Art Morrison and recieved a pair of custom bent frame rails that fit the contour of the Novas' rear floor pan perfectly.
     
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  5. Wlyzman41
    Joined: Jun 3, 2022
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    Thanks for those great ideas!
     
  6. Xdrag48
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    '48 Ford Anglia's have brackets under the body panel. They would be easy to make. Here are some pictures. I am sure a google search would show more.
     

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  7. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
    Posts: 10,354

    jnaki

    Hello,
    This is the 4th version of the same request since January 2024. The same question:

    "Hi,
    I'm still hoping that someone on this site has had to fabricate rear bumper tube brackets for a coupe that would pass under the body. The original notches for the brackets have been filled in, so they will have to be straight, then have a curve to do so. I've tried to make a pattern out of cardboard, but not doing well with that plan. I sure would appreciate some help with this project!
    Thanks,
    Charlie"

    There have great answers and patterns shown. So, I guess the person is waiting for someone to actually make one set for him. from @DDDenny + @Just Gary and others.
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...1-willys-coupe-2nd-try.1309921/#post-15129406

    An exact copy and model of bumper for the Willys rear end.

    Jnaki
    Hopefully, there will not be a 5th thread with the same question... get it done... yikes!
     
  8. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
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    DDDenny
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    from oregon

  9. Dave 39
    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
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    Dave 39
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    They are being hard on you but truthful. Cereal boxes, cardboard from Michaels or Hobby Lobby can work well; anything thin enough to stapple. Cut and fit, make in pieces stapple together, trim, fit some more; wash rinse repeat. Hot melt glue gun can help also. You can do this.
     
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  10. Wlyzman41
    Joined: Jun 3, 2022
    Posts: 18

    Wlyzman41
    Member

    Thanks, I will look into it!
     
  11. Wlyzman41
    Joined: Jun 3, 2022
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    Wlyzman41
    Member

    Thanks for your reply and info. No, I'm not expecting someone to make the brackets for me, I just have been collecting ideas from various members, as the earlier ones weren't helping much!
     
  12. I think you need to provide a lot more information, if I remember right it was a stock frame and you had a tube bumper.
    You need to mockup the bumper where you want it, measure bumper to body and frame holes back to body, that gives you a total length to work from.
    Then measure from frame holes to bottom of body and body to mid point of tube bumper, that'll give you the depth it needs to get under the body.
    Is the bumper for looks only or do you want it somewhat functional, how thick of bracket material do you plan on using ?
     

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