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Technical 1962 Ford Mercury Brake Booster

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Oneball, Mar 12, 2024.

  1. Oneball
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    My 1962 Mercury Monterey has factory power brakes with drums all round. The booster has failed and I need to replace it. I can’t rebuild the one that is on there as I don’t know what it is as it’s a cobbled together replacement.

    The parts book lists C2AZ-2005-F as the correct one but I can’t find any reference to that on the internet.

    RockAuto lists Cardone 54 76122 as a replacement but I can’t find any of those.

    I don’t want discs and I don’t really want to have to change pedal ***embly or master cylinder.

    Has anyone got any suggestions?
     
  2. Pontmerc
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    from Finland

    There are two tyops used.if booster to firewall bra ket has lever system you need short rod booster and if its straight thru to pedal then long version.
    Original was midland-ross and it has aluminum front section and is put together 10 screws.
     
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  3. Oneball
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    Thanks. It’s the long rod. I got to the bottom of that bit. Thing is there is nowhere you can get a booster from which I find amazing as they made millions of Galaxies.

    I can’t use the aftermarket boosters as the bolt spacing is wrong and both firewall and master cylinder side. And I can’t use the power booster conversion kits as the utilise a manual brake pedal ***embly. The Mustang boosters all seem to have the wrong master cylinder bolt spacing too

    I’ve spent about 8 hours searching for this now and have drawn a complete blank.
     
  4. Power brakes was not a real common option on Fords of that era, unlike power steering. Ford's drum brake design was self-energizing, so power ***ist really wasn't needed. When disc brakes showed up a few years later, that's when boosters became more common. With the one you have, you usually needed a rebuildable core to exchange and they aren't cheap to either buy or rebuild. Not enough of a market to warrant new replacements.

    Knowing the difficulties of where you are only makes it harder. FWIW, try looking for a late '60s/'70s F100/150 truck disc booster as I've seen those used as replacements with some needed minor mods. You'll need the complete ***embly (mounting brackets, etc) and may have to mod the mounting bracket and pedal some.
     
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  5. Oneball
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    Thanks Steve. I think the simplest solution is to go with something like this, then I end up with a readily available bolt pattern on booster and master cylinder in the future. Right pain in the ****.
    IMG_6732.jpeg
     
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  6. Pontmerc
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    Call pg larsson in tibro sweden.
    He might have complete booster ***embly.
    Pgbildelar.se
    He talks english very well.
     
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  7. Oneball
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    Thanks for that.
    I spent the afternoon trying to identify the booster that is fitted by looking through RockAuto. I think it’s probably off an F100. They’d got one on warehouse clearance for £40 so I thought I’d take a punt and order it. Should be here next week. If that doesn’t work out I’ll get in touch with him.
     
  8. Yeah, looking at some of your pics, I'd say that's a good guess. I have found that the aftermarket boosters can use odd-ball parts. I had the grommet for the vacuum line fail on my avatar and had a helluva time finding something that would fit. Ended up with a somewhat-cobbled PCV fitting...
     
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  9. Oneball
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    The annoying thing about the booster that’s fitted is that it’s got a “Ford Reman” sticker on it but the part number is worn off.
     
  10. sdluck
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    Is It really a booster and not a servo?
     
  11. sdluck
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    Summit racing shows it has one?
     
  12. Oneball
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    Yes it’s actually a servo but I try not to confuse you boys by speaking English ;)


    Have you got a link?
     
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  13. bobss396
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    Erk... some of those are 1/2 way out to the radiator wall once installed. This is why I p***ed on a booster on my car. How about a '65-'66 stock booster? I had a shop local to me that would rebuild boosters, I doubt there are many out your way.
     
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  14. Oneball
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    I don’t really like them either. There’s places to rebuild a booster here too. Problem is I don’t have the original and I’m not 100% sure what the one I’ve got is off.
    The 65 on boosters have a shorter rod so can’t use with my pedal box. I also can’t fit non power brakes with my pedal box. It’s a bit complicated!!
     
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  16. brading
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    From what " Balljoint " has said one way you could go is to send pics of your servo/booster to Harmon Cl***ics get them to identify it. Get a kit from them then get the rebuilders over here to rebuild it.
     
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    from oregon

    Right here in Portland, website says "home of Booster Dewey", which is what it was called some years back when they did work for me, at one time the "go to guy" for booster restorations, they were known for carrying parts for many obscure applications.

    https://www.powerbrakebooster.com/
     
  19. Pontmerc
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    I think i have one spare midland booster, but i dont know if its working, and i might need it myself.
    I really can take measurements and pictures but right now im repairing roro ship in travemünde germany and it takes probably least few days until im back home.
     
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  20. Oneball
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    Thanks again for the help. Fingers crossed the booster I’ve ordered will work.

    It won’t be going anywhere for a while I don’t think I’ll be able to get the engine out again till April to fix the core plugs.
     
  21. bobss396
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    You could scour the cl***ifieds for a donor booster, but you're in the UK. It gets complicated. The Ford Barn has a good cl***ified section, eBay is where I find many parts I need.

    Could you extend the rod on the '65 unit.. got a buddy in a machine shop? It could even have a machined recess in the end and be JB Welded in place.
     
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  22. Oneball
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    Could thread and extend the rod but they don’t look particularly available either.
    The one I’ve ordered should be here Tuesday so we’ll see how that goes.
     
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  23. Oneball
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    My F100 brake booster turned up. It’s not quite the same as the one in there already as it has a threaded rod.
    IMG_6788.jpeg

    But the mounting bolt pattern looks to be the same as the stock bracket, the master mounts seem the same so if I can find a threaded link to the pedal I should be able to replicate the factory set up.

    Just need to come up with a connection to the pedal, it’s a shame it’s 7/16-20 rather than the 3/8 like most of the other Fords as that’d be super simple!
     

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