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Hot Rods 500 ci Caddy Love

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sweetdick2, Apr 3, 2024.

  1. sweetdick2
    Joined: Jul 15, 2011
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    I'm surprised the lack of enthusiasm for the 500 Caddy considering everything they have to offer. what most don't realize. they may look m***ive and heavy and boat anchor reputation, first your starting with 500 cubic inches, with a alum intake they weigh about 100 lbs heavier than a small block Chevy, in a mild rebuild form it's a easy 425/450 hp motor. Enough torque to twist your frame, all with a stock bottom end. no wild cam,high stall speed converter,no overheating, I can go on and on. I've used them in three of my builds and will use them again in my 48 dodge pickup.Something to consider, Just saying'
     
  2. G-son
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    You say that as if it's a good thing.
     
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  3. choptop40
    Joined: Dec 23, 2009
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    had a low mile 30,000 , 500 caddy years ago....moved to Texas and sold it....want it back...I'd put it my 50 Desoto in a heartbeat,,,,
     
  4. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    More like twisting the earth on a different axis......:confused:;)
    I had one in a '74 Sedan De' Ville.. To bad I had to s**** it because of a rear end collision...:mad::(
     
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  5. bobss396
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    I read an article, someone put one in a stock car, maybe an IMCA modified. They were quite happy with it.
     
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  6. 40FORDPU
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    It may have more to do with when Cadillac introduced the 500 (I believe 1970).
    This site catering to the '65 and earlier vintage....it may not be "lack of enthusiasm" for them, but rather respect for the guidelines of this site to mention them here (albeit fine line, as newer than '65 engines often get used on our "HAMB friendly" cars).
    I'd use one.
     
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  7. I’ve got one.
    Does ok. Not overly impressed
    I’ve got a 68 472 that runs great. Using a 283 in my latest build. Just wasn’t worth the effort to fit in my worthless opinion. Plus doesn’t fit the era I was after.
    I got the 472 from a guy doing an LS swap in a caddy. Kinda seems like a downgrade vs a big caddy in that ride.
    I think they’re great engines. They are kinda ugly.
     
  8. UGLY. Blasphemy!:p Maybe not as "pretty" as some, but ugly? NO engine is THAT!:D

    Ben
     
  9. Yep. Thay ain’t pretty.
    Not LS ugly.
    But not far either
     
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  10. mustangsix
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    Caddy engines are kind of enigma for me. The big 472/500 motors certainly have some pluses, but the lack of aftermarket support makes them a little harder for me to consider. Maybe if I had a big Buick or Packard or something like that, but for the cubic inches the big block Chevy is just easier.
    I have a 4.9 Cad aluminum engine I've been staring at for months and it's same issue. It has a lot of features that would make it a good engine for a light car, but it looks odd and there is very little available to juice it up. Not sure I'll get around to using it on anything.
     
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  11. 1pickup
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    @mustangsix Did you say big Buick w/ a Cad 500? Coming right up... PXL_20240104_205517881.MP.jpg
     
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  12. MoparTobi
    Joined: May 26, 2014
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    I have a '73 model Cad motor and a Mopar big block RB motor, both ran when pulled. Really on the fence about which one to put in my '55 Chevy 2-door sedan. Leaning towards the BB Mopar because of the aftermarket support and that's what I'm used to. Some guys will be upset, but that what I have, and that's what hot rodders do.
     
  13. 2OLD2FAST
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    Like the plethora of crate motors, etc.
     
  14. Mr48chev
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    I'm still in the middle of getting things worked out putting one in my 71 GMC 3/4 ton as my tow rig / haul or drag the other stuff truck. This one came out of a 75 ambulance that my buddy had and s****ped out because the body was too roached out to be any good.
    All I am doing to it is putting on an Edelbrock intake and some stainless headers that I picked up on Ebay. I had to swap pans to get it to fit and just like swapping Ford ohv engines that is an issue.
    The good is lots of torque and plenty of horse power and reasonable gas mileage if you drive with a degree of sanity.
    The bad is that they are hell for wide.
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    You Can see here that on a 60 and up to 87 C 10 or 20 frame the exhaust is out over the frame rails. Then on a lot of rigs there is that oil filter right in the big middle of the way.

    On one of my trips to Bonneville I ran into a guy who had a 500 Cad in what started out as a flathood Jeep C-J. Kind of a well built rat rod with no rat rod **** with a hot rod tube ch***is, the engine and the Jeep tub and I think a roll bar that held one of those Jeep bikini tops that used to be popular with the CJ guys. I won't quote his speed claims but he said he had been burning up the highway with it.
     
  15. Illustrious Hector
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    Mopar in a '55, That's blasphemin' Onliest Mopar that should be considered is a Hemi
     
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  16. MoparTobi
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    Yeah, too bad I don't have TV host money!:D
     
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  17. Wife told me to put a 302 ford in her 56 Chevy if i wanted to. Just pulled a low mile one with a WC 5 speed
    She could care less what makes it go

    hmmmmmmmm
     
  18. Mr48chev
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    I don't know about now but back in the 80's a lot of the regulars who raced every week at the Woodburn oregon drag strip had 440 Mopars in anything and everything and those ******s were fast for what they were. They weren't fancy either, Junk yard engine, purple stripe cam and aluminum intake and headers and go.
     
  19. 73RR
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    I have a pair of 500's in the shop, figure that they must be good for something, someday. Of course, sitting next to them are numerous B&RB pieces and as noted above, they also make gobs of torque and propel metal boxes quite well. The front mounted dizzy is handy and torque IS your friend.
     
  20. sweetdick2
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    https://cad500parts.com/
    this company has EVERYTHING you could possibly want or need for your caddy, they're not cheap,quality stuff
     
  21. In_The_Pink
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    Front mount distributor engines are always a wise choice. :cool:

    400 horses (being realistic/conservative here) in stock form is nothing to sneeze at, but those outward turning exhaust manifold outlets are super inconvenient...but that can be rectified with headers.

    Is Larry ????? in Florida (??) still the guru of performance Cadillac stuff? Maybe not anymore, been 20+ years since I read that.

    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/finding-cadillac-parts.298882/
     
  22. Roothawg
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    That first drawing made me dizzy. I would give one a shot, if they were more prevalent around here. I haven't seen any in a long time.
     
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  23. Tried to un ugly mine some
    IMG_8085.jpeg
     
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  24. mad mikey
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    I would run the hell out of it.:) Looks nice.;)
     
  25. TheSteamDocII
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    They're not hot rod material and hate being revved past 4500 RPM. They're definitely a good torque engine. They're popular with airboat guys. I'm not gonna lie, I want a 500 Caddy in a truck! All the torque will be nice.
     
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  26. Roothawg
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    I beg to differ.... :cool:

    https://cad500parts.com/
     
  27. ROADSTER1927
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    I had a 500 cad in a 63 Chevy short box step side truck It was a lot of fun . Drove it year around and rust got it! But I drove it many years!
     
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  28. chicken
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    Nope, not hot rod material. The T coupe in my avatar only went 9.50 at 139 mph with one.
     
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  29. big bird
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    Caddy engine is roughly the physical size of a Buick Smallblock. Distributor in the same place at a similar angle.
    425 oil pan, pickup and engine mounts/perches drop a 500 where a small Buick lived. Both engines were unpopular/unfamiliar with the "Cool Kids" and their Chevies, Mopars and Fords.
    A can of Buick Red engine paint, some creative dirt/grease application, and a Buick 350 air cleaner housing...
    Wow, my "Buick" was fast! Left a lot of big-blocks looking at my taillights.
     
  30. BS!:D

    Ben
     
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