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Technical Leg room steering wheel

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by sdroadster, Apr 7, 2024.

  1. sdroadster
    Joined: Jul 27, 2006
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    I have been working on the creation of additional leg room in my 28 Roadster Pick up. If you look at the pictures, I made a reversed firewall, and moved a 4.3 Chevy V6 up as far as possible. I still struggled with the ability to pick my leg up off the throttle, and move it to the brake pedal because of the steering wheel interference. I discovered this reproduction Allis Chalmers steering wheel on Ebay. It has the same dimensional P1000912.JPG P1000910.JPG P1000913.JPG taper, and keyway as a 40 Ford steering column. When I positioned it in place, it resolved all my Model A leg room issues. I thought you guys might want to know.
     
  2. Illustrious Hector
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    Brilliant! Plus you'll be unique
     
  3. bill gruendeman
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    Can you lower the seat some, that would help too.
     
  4. 29Sleeper
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    I lowered my seat and made the seat back thinner. How's your fix going to work if you need to get to the brakes in a turn?
     
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  5. Squablow
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    This would be my question. I had to do a lot of work on my T so I could fit in it properly, so I know the struggle for sure. But I'd be worried about needing to stab the clutch part way into a turn, and also making a full lock to lock turn at super slow speeds, there will be a point where I'm going to want to grab that wheel right in the void area.
     
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  6. 2OLD2FAST
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    As long as you don't turn the wheel , should work fine !
    Not being snarky , but in a shallow right turn or a tighter left , the old problem resurfaces.
     
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  7. 325w
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    Spin back in a turn could be a issue
     
  8. Are you taking the Allis to Bonneville?
     
  9. sdroadster
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    Maybe the Dry Lakes. There's almost no salt left at Bonneville thanks to the mining efforts and the BLM.
     
  10. Marty Strode
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    Probably cheaper than my DC-3 or C-47 Transport control yoke. Look a lot the same. IMG_0198.jpg
     
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  11. RICH B
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    Brother in law bought (from a fat guy) an old camper with the bottom third of the wheel was cut away; I ended up driving it home. It was a thrill; don't know if I ever would have became use to it. Hunted down another wheel the next day.
     
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  12. 2OLD2FAST
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    Good for a B 29 , not so much for a car that you might have to park ...:D
     
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  13. sdroadster
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    Thanks for your comment, and understanding. I thought there would be more guys happy to discover a part that bolts on, and fits. This steering wheel costs $75 and cured my needs.
     
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  14. Marty Strode
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    Your thread caught my eye, as I have a restored 1961 D12. My wheel is full round. IMG_4124.jpeg
     
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  15. 51504bat
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    Don't know if I should even bring this up but here goes. Years ago I worked for the CA Dept. of Transportation Legal Division. There was a lawsuit that I was aware of (but the State wasn't named in IIRC) that involved a tri five Chevy with a Superior Industries ****erfly type steering wheel marketed for use on non street applications (boats I think but this was a long time ago) with a Grant 3 bolt adapter. The ruling was against both Superior and Grant. The reasoning(?) was that Superior sold far more of the wheels than there were approved applications so that they should have known the wheels were being used for non approved vehicles i.e. p***enger cars. Seems a stretch at best but how in the F did that reasoning apply to Grant which only mad the adapter that could be used on thousands of legal aftermarket steering wheels? And cases like this happen more and often. Sad state of things. AZ_2294__1__79264.jpg 81AhJQlNZnL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
     
  16. dwollam
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    That Azusa ****erfly wheel was used on a lot of go Karts. We have 3 of them.

    Dave
     
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  17. pirate
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    I like the idea! My off theme Kia SUV has a steering wheel that is squared off at the bottom. It’s smaller in diameter and seemed a bit weird at first turning corners however got used to it quickly. Hot Rodding is all about solving problems/issues that you have in unique, logical and sometime inexpensive ways. As long as you’re happy that’s all that counts.
     
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  19. RICH B
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    Didn't mean to offend; but I remember how many turns lock to lock my last roadster was with a similar reversed Corvair box which in turn reminded of the Dodge motor home with the cut away wheel. If the wheel works out for you great.
     
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  20. sdroadster
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    I used to be 6' 4" but I shrunk a bit during Chemo Therapy.
     
  21. In_The_Pink
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    The issue appears to be the brake pedal pad is considerably higher off the floor than the throttle pedal pad's position. Can you lower the brake pedal pad, or shorten the pedal lever length to require less vertical leg movement?

    I would agree that using a 240 degree steering wheel is not a good idea for a street driven vehicle, and legally, you could be liable for multiple things in the event of an accident, even if not caused by you-- nobody wants that.

    I'm ***uming manual steering, paired with a larger (15"+?) diameter steering wheel is part of the issue?
     
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