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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by A Boner, May 2, 2024.

  1. A Boner
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    Would these tires be suitable for rear tires on a Model A traditional hot rod? Not seeking a lawyer’s opinion, or DOT opinion, but just a common sense opinion, from someone with actual hot rod experience. The “E” load range are quite stiff, but running with lower tire pressure usually seems to be help, some. The speed rating is quite low, but is that measured with a heavy load…way heavier than any Model A hot rod. Not talking any racing stuff, more for just cruising. They sure have the old Dry Lakes look!
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  2. Jalopy Joker
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    the stiff sidewalls will not help comfort of ride
     
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  3. A Boner
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    The stiff sidewall can somewhat be countered by running a lower tire pressure. Actually I’m more concerned about the somewhat low speed rating…comfort, not very worried!
     
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  4. Dang, 10 ply, they'd last forever. But yeah, stiff ride. I think Big Ken was the one I was thinking that would get the Chinese trailer tires for his 34 pickup.
     
  5. 10 ply ratings will ride like a buckboard.
     
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  6. Mr48chev
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    Good lord, those would ride rough as hell on my car trailer. They are for a 10,000 lb rated trailer with 4 tires. Plus the manufacture says not suitable for light trucks. Screenshot (98).png
     
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  7. BamaMav
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    Hell, with a 10 ply, you wouldn't even need air in them to hold up an Model A! :eek::eek::eek:
     
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  8. krylon32
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    They are trailer tires not meant for passenger car or pickup use. I understand money can be tight and getting tighter but the safety of your self and family are more important than not getting the right tires. Tires are no place to scrimp.
     
  9. A Boner
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    How about these? 7:00x 15…29.5 diameter, load range D
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  10. Tow Truck Tom
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    I would not venture out in the rain. The tread is meant to just 'tail' along not transfer power.
    Not being bossy bu ut,, Keep looking
     
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  11. A Boner
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    These are listed as light truck tires…load range D…but only 15”…seems like 16”are all load range E…30” diameter
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  12. Do you need 15s or 16s? Those are 2 different sizes
     
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  13. dodge35
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    The picture he posted were 16" tires.
     
  14. caprockfabshop
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    Those are still 8 ply, meant for semi trucks and box trucks. Way overkill for a hot rod, and even with low pressure will be overly stiff.

    Here are some more "budget" oriented tires I'd recommend in 16" diameter:
    https://www.cokertire.com/tires/700-16-firestone-blackwall.html
    https://www.cokertire.com/tires/pirelli-stella-bianca-600-16.html
    https://www.cokertire.com/tires/avon-tourist-600-16-86l.html
    https://www.cokertire.com/tires/650-16-garfield-blackwall.html
    https://www.cokertire.com/tires/650-16-excelsior-black.html
     
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  15. Sharpone
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    I looked on the Discount Tire site they have several 225 75 16 tires from $140 to $300 , black walls and letters ,AT to highway tread, a 75 aspect ratio won’t be as tall as a 90 however I think they’ll look ok. Coker has tradition tires but they’re pricey
    Dan
     
  16. A Boner
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    Would like 16”, but like I said only load range E offered with 16”,
    and only the 15” offer load range D
     
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  17. A Boner
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    No way…8 ply tires are never used on a semi-trucks or box trucks (except maybe a Chevy Luv box truck). They are more appropriate for 3/4 ton pickup trucks, or maybe heavy duty half tons.
    The modified in my avatar pic has 15” tires with load range D rating, and it rides great! Only pump rear tires to 18 lbs. though.
    The 6:00 X16 tires aren’t tall enough for my application.
    Oh, and Coker tires aren’t what I would call my go to brand!
     
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  18. caprockfabshop
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    Same here, too many stories of premature failure and wear, and then when complaining Coker claims that they're tires are meant for display/parade use only or some other thing to avoid having to pay for replacements. I just use their site for identifying brands and sizes I'd like and then see where I can buy them. I've used kelseytire.com as well as widewhitetires.com both great companies.

    Oh, and I guess I meant those 8-plies would've likely come on vintage heavy trucks and semi's, not modern. Obviously loads are heavier nowadays and speeds higher

    ~Peter
     
  19. jimmy six
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    Trailer tires don’t say “trailer” on them for no reason…
     
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  20. justpassinthru
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    So, just what make it unsafe, to use a trailer tire on a car?
    Trailers are going at highway speeds all the time.
    Sure the ride will be rougher.
    I cant see the wet traction being any worse than a bias ply.
    There must be some other reasons, other than they are just not DOT approved for cars and light trucks.

    Bill
     
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  22. tubman
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    I kinda agree with this. Some of you guys would be amazed at what we would run back in the "traditional" days.

    We ran implement tires on the dirt track because they were cheap and looked like real front end "race tires". (They were rated at 25 mph max.)
     
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  23. Is this some sort of skill testing question?
     
  24. alanp561
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    In reference to your comment, "I can't see the wet traction being any worse than a bias ply". It's obvious that you've never had a trailer try to pass the truck you're driving when the road is either wet or iced.
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  25. justpassinthru
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    I've pulled my car trailer that has trailer tires, in sun and rain and snow at highway speeds and it has never tried to pass me up.
    I'd like to know what is actually different in the construction of the tire that makes them unsafe to use on a car?
    I don't think the ply rating of the tire is the only factor.
    He'll I have run 8 ply Mickey Thompson Sportsman bias ply front tires on my BBC street/strip Nova for years without issue.
    Aside from the somewhat flat tread pattern on many trailer tires, compared to an old fashion bias ply, the tread patterns are very similar.

    Bill
     
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  26. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Would those tires be any harsher than todays big-inch rims with rubber band tires? I see them on hot rods.
    wretch
     
  27. A Boner
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    Just trying to find some traditional looking Hot Rod tires that preferably:
    1. Are round
    2. Fit on 16” rim
    3. Last more than 10,000 miles
    4. Cost under $150.00 each
    5. Actually look traditional…no billboard lettering, or fancy shit on the sidewalls
    6. Ride ok… not ridiculous, but don’t have to be silky smooth either
    7. 30”to 32” diameter range
    8. Fit on 5”- 7” wide rims

    If you locate some…post them here, as hopefully you have noticed, the normal world has gone to low & lower profile tires, and tall skinny tires are becoming quite rare, and hard to find.
     
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  28. SS327
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    I would try to run them, just air down like you said. Not like you’re going to race it as you said.
     
  29. A Boner
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    They are actually only 1” different…actually 1/2” different at the top and 1/2” different at the bottom!
     
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