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Technical model A won't start

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Ima, May 7, 2024.

  1. Ima
    Joined: Dec 15, 2022
    Posts: 31

    Ima
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    from New Englnd

    When I depress the starter floor button the starter turns over once then I lose all electrical.
    The stater and solenoid were replaced 4 years ago.
    Any ideas what's happening?
     
  2. Model As don't have solenoids
     
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  3. BJR
    Joined: Mar 11, 2005
    Posts: 10,532

    BJR
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    Clean the battery terminals
     
  4. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 5,617

    RodStRace
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    Start with the basics.
    Check compression.
    Check spark.
    Check timing.
    Check for fuel at the carb.
    If everything is in good form, you don't even need the starter.
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EWDRHC2dzg
     
  5. Model A Gomez
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
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    Model A Gomez
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    What he says plus check that the connection at the starter is clean and tight, also check the battery voltage and see how far it drops when you hit the starter.
     
  6. Glenn Thoreson
    Joined: Aug 13, 2010
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    Glenn Thoreson
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    from SW Wyoming

    Model A with a solenoid? I second the "clean your battery terminals". Take the cables off and clean the insides, not just the outsides. Battery post, too. When bright & shiny clean, wipe a thin coat of grease on the cable insides and the battery posts. That will help prevent corrosion. Check the cable connections at the starter and the ground for rust or looseness, etc. Clean, shiny and tight contacts make happy cars. :) Or just get out the crank..........
     
  7. Ima
    Joined: Dec 15, 2022
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    Ima
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    from New Englnd

    OK I may have misnamed the contact on top of the starter that when depressed it makes contact with the starter to start. What ever that is called it is relatively new and appears to be clean.
    Plugs are new, battery terminals are clean, it's getting fuel.
    Why would timing or compression make me lose electricals?
     
  8. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    Model A won't turn over.....has it been setting awhile? Do the headlights go out when it quits cranking?
    Will it turn over 360 degrees with the hand crank with the spark plugs in? With the spark plugs out
    If the head gasket is leaking....you could have hydrolocked
     
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  9. I call it a switch
     
  10. jaracer
    Joined: Oct 4, 2008
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    A great application for testing with a voltmeter. First you need to see that happens to battery voltage at the posts when the starter quits. If it stays near 6 volts, you have a connection problem. If it drops below 4.5 volts, I'd suspect a bad or discharged battery.
     
  11. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 5,617

    RodStRace
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    The ENTIRE STARTING CIRCUIT is
    Battery
    Battery cables and connections
    Starter floor switch

    That is everything involved in cranking.
    If you come on here and ask us to diagnose what's wrong with that, I will assume that you need to look over everything.
    Also, when someone asks about cranking, I assume they want to start the vehicle. That's why you want everything to be checked and working. Then you can try hand cranking to avoid diagnosing the cranking until the rest is good.
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2024
  12. Make sure you have a GOOD ground. Model A's ground strap mounts to the crossmember. I always add an extra cable to the engine bellhousing just for an extra measure.
     
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  13. Dave Mc
    Joined: Mar 8, 2011
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    Pull the sparkplugs and hit the starter, if using the stock gravity feed and leaking or open petcock to carb, might be fuel in the cylinders.
     

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