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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by JamesG, Feb 22, 2004.

  1. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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    I think this is the same guy from the other day trying to scam people by offering these 30,000 or so doller cars for cheap, thak a look......

    eGayscam
     
  2. Muttley
    Joined: Nov 30, 2003
    Posts: 18,501

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    There is a bunch of cars on E-gay at the moment that are listed exactaly like this one, a car thats WAY to nice for a "buy it now" price of $7,000. TOTAL SCAM.
     
  3. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
    Posts: 3,036

    Hot Rod To Hell
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    from Flint MI

    How the hell do they get 350L displacement out of a small block?!?!? It'd be worth $7000 just for that tech secret! [​IMG][​IMG]
     
  4. rodknockerreject
    Joined: Jan 22, 2004
    Posts: 8

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    I was looking at cars today and everything about this one auction seemed like a scam. No location no info. besides the obvious, a plain picture, this guy is a real dumb***
     
  5. Greazer
    Joined: Jun 10, 2003
    Posts: 195

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    Did you see the '73 Jag that she ("Betsy Abbott @ Yahoo.com") is also selling. The Jag's vin is "1111111111." [​IMG]Come on now.

    I'm tryin' to figure out how the seller got so much positive feedback. What did they do, set up 50 some odd accounts under different names?

    I kind of hoped Ebay was at least doing a better job of regulating the feedback. [​IMG] Is there anything stoppin' us from posting negative feedback on ol' Betsy, without a real interaction or contact with her?
     
  6. Kojack
    Joined: Feb 11, 2003
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    And I don't think I trust the location being at "PLEASE EMAIL ME" Either. I can't belive the amount of scamming that's showing up... it's a ****ing epidemic.
     
  7. briggs&strattonChev
    Joined: Feb 20, 2003
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Is there anything stoppin' us from posting negative feedback on ol' Betsy, without a real interaction or contact with her?

    [/ QUOTE ]

    if I understand the ? correctly, no. When you leave feedback its always for a specific instance and you give the item transaction number.
     
  8. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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    I'm sure that theres some way a hacker could go in there and give themselves all the positive feedback they want.

    When I had my 56 Safari on there I started the bidding at 4500.00. My reserve was set 9,000.00. I got one bid that kicked it up to an odd amount like 5650.00 or something. Then the very next bid was for the exact amount to make my reserve! I was like "kool man!" Then I got to thinking that that was one hell of a lucky guess.......then a few days later I got two emails, a bid retraction notice, then an email from the guy that supposedly bid. He did not bid! He said that he had been out of town and . yes, he has bought old cars on ebay before but did not bid on my car. Someone would have had to got his name and p***word and then found out what my reserve was and then made it look like he was the very next bidder to hit my reserve.

    I think ebays security ****S!
     
  9. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
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    The only way to reallt leave any feedback is after you've gotten your stuff I think they send you an email with a link to do that....I think........

    The thing to do is email ebay and bring it to their attention.
     
  10. briggs&strattonChev
    Joined: Feb 20, 2003
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Steven Langmuir
    Phone: (000)000-0000


    [/ QUOTE ]

    riiiight

    [ QUOTE ]
    the '73 Jag that she ("Betsy Abbott @ Yahoo.com") is also selling. The Jag's vin is "1111111111."

    [/ QUOTE ]

    this model A has the same VIN!!!
     
  11. ray
    Joined: Jun 25, 2001
    Posts: 3,798

    ray
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    from colorado

    [ QUOTE ]
    I'm sure that theres some way a hacker could go in there and give themselves all the positive feedback they want.

    When I had my 56 Safari on there I started the bidding at 4500.00. My reserve was set 9,000.00. I got one bid that kicked it up to an odd amount like 5650.00 or something. Then the very next bid was for the exact amount to make my reserve! I was like "kool man!" Then I got to thinking that that was one hell of a lucky guess.......then a few days later I got two emails, a bid retraction notice, then an email from the guy that supposedly bid. He did not bid! He said that he had been out of town and . yes, he has bought old cars on ebay before but did not bid on my car. Someone would have had to got his name and p***word and then found out what my reserve was and then made it look like he was the very next bidder to hit my reserve.

    I think ebays security ****S!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    i think there is some weird software that people are using to manipulate auctions...i'd suspect someone hijacked the id of the seller that this post is about.

    i've had many strange thing happen to my computer in the closing seconds of auctions i've been watching.
     
  12. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    [ QUOTE ]
    got one bid that kicked it up to an odd amount like 5650.00 or something. Then the very next bid was for the exact amount to make my reserve!

    [/ QUOTE ]

    What more likely happened was the scammer bid $25,000 & eBay automatically just ups it to the reserve amount so it appears to have nailed your reserve exactly. That's the trick with reserve auctions.

    What's going on in the rest of the place - remember all those emails we all got over the last few months asking for confirmation of our credit card or our accounts would be frozen? The scammers are data-mining folks with good feedback records so they can pull these scams off. Then they list items & use phantom bidder (big bid, later retraction) to jack the price up.

    Someone that doesn't want to list a VIN, I can understand. I can even understand someone who doesn't want to list an exact location. Those don't throw me that much - I just ask lots of questions until I'm satisfied it's a real user.

    One of the tell-tale characteristics of the latest scams is the low BIN price coupled with private auctions or auctions where you have to be pre-approved.

    I asked a question on a nice shovelhead that had a low price w/no reserve. Got back the reply that he hadn't put it on there & eBay was notified - by the time I got the email & clicked on the link again, eBay had pulled it.

    Buyer beware!

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Machinos
    Joined: Dec 30, 2002
    Posts: 761

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    Isn't there a way to report this kind of thing to ebay? No one's fallen for it yet, and while I do kind of go for the "People that stupid don't deserve their money" school of thought, scammers don't deserve the money either.
     
  14. CURIOUS RASH
    Joined: Jun 2, 2002
    Posts: 9,635

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    <font color="green">I emailed the person asking them:

    How is it they have two cars both with the same serial number, numbers that were not available from either manufacturer?

    Why is he selling them so cheap?

    How is it that the Jaguar has a four cylinder, 350L engine?

    Here is the response...

    Hello and thank you for contacting me

    I will tell you a few words about the car..
    First of all the car is fully restored and looks just like in the pictures.It is in imaculate condition and has no schrach on and hasn't been involved in any accident.
    The motor runs very well. This is a clasic car that has a lot of the original parts and thr tires are almost new.
    The ***le is clear ,it is not a salvage one.
    The car belongs to my brother.He died two weeks ago in a bike accident.
    The car is now in Denmark as my brother lived there.I am now here as i took care of the funerals.
    Because i can't carry all his things back home i am selling them.
    I am willing to sell it and shipp it to any of the UE countries or to US.I will not ship to any African,Asian or Eastern European countries.
    I know that the price is low but i have no use for the car and I want to get back home as soon as i sell it.
    I want to sell the car asap so I am willing to pay 25% of the shipping fees nomatter of the location.
    I require a deposit of 3000USD.The money is a reservation for the car.First one who makes the deposit will be the buyer.I need the deposit to be sure that you want the car and in order to proceed with shipping and all the aditional export taxes.

    I wait your further questions and i will provide any infos you need.

    Thank you

    Regards

    No name, sounds like a load of **** to me.

    RASHY </font>
     
  15. Kojack
    Joined: Feb 11, 2003
    Posts: 1,294

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    Yeah, it's a LINE of ********. That sounds nearly word for word what another HAMBer got back from a scammer a few weeks. It seems they all use the same notepad file. [​IMG] He's always in Denmark or something, and his father or brother died. He's going aftering that deposit is what he is.

    What's scary is how he's got all those fake comments. Anyone click those auctions? Half of the wins are from the same people, for items that are like .08. BIG ****ing scammers.
     
  16. Hot Rod To Hell
    Joined: Aug 19, 2003
    Posts: 3,036

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    from Flint MI

    I just tried to check it again, and it's gone!!! [​IMG]
     
  17. Shows invalid item when I tried it. Think they got neverous and took them off.
     
  18. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
    Posts: 5,249

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  19. I had spotted another one earlier today, so about 5 minutes ago I checked that it was still in my watch list and I went to do a fraud report to eBay and as soon as I clicked to submit the report the item number was invalid.Went back to the watch and the item was "May no longer be available". The seller's response was identical to the one listed above - same story.

    Pretty sophisticated program to steal seller iden***ies and then being able to detect when the whistle is being blown and then bailing.

    Charlie
     
  20. young buck
    Joined: Oct 7, 2003
    Posts: 153

    young buck
    Member

    i have found 7 cars being scamed.
    66 cobra

    31 roadster

    33 sedan...(not there now)

    audi tt

    2004 corvette

    2003 jag


    this dude is using 4 accounts..what a total peice of ****!!!!!

    young buck
     
  21. Rocky
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
    Posts: 17,625

    Rocky
    Classified Editor

    I was surfing E-bay last night and came across a guy selling H-4 halogen headlights in quan***y for a very nice price. He required a name, address and phone number before he'd ship anything. He was really pushing the phone number requirement with capitol letters. I checked his feedback and it was 99% with about 800 sales. I don't get it. If it was a legitimate seller, why his need for a phone number? I didn't bite.
     
  22. JamesG
    Joined: Nov 5, 2003
    Posts: 5,249

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    We ought to bombard him with emails and maybe his email account will explode!

    They do explode, right?....... [​IMG]
     

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