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Projects 1930 Oliver Roadster Build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by oliver westlund, Dec 22, 2021.

  1. dwollam
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    And I thought only Chevys made Rat motors!

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  2. oliver westlund
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    Point of entry was the fuel pump tower, valves are not only in great shape but this engine I have discovered was rebuilt! Copper headgaskets, no sludge in the valley. Imtake gaskets relatively new too
     
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  3. oliver westlund
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    Got my cloth wrapped plug wires cut today. Traditional is as traditional does...
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  4. oliver westlund
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    Heads got final paint today! 20240511_174528.jpg
    Waiting for some cans of teal to come in so I can spray the rest!
     
  5. oliver westlund
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    Lil more progress today! 20240512_192630.jpg 20240512_192251.jpg
     
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  6. 1946caddy
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    Just found this thread and thought I would add this to the splicing frame discussion. Guy's a little hard to understand.
     
  7. oliver westlund
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    Excellent! Man he really went into it! Thats about what I figured from what I have seen and experienced. Id say in the end, correctly cleaned and beveled surfaces and good penetration welds without voids are the biggest key factors
     
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  9. nrgwizard
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    Tex Smith used to say, on "z"-ing(& other mods/cuts) chassis rails, that "the most important secret of cutting angles, is not the angle, but that they are exactly the same on each side.". Works for me, & this of course, *assumes* good clean welding.
    The angle-cut aspect could also possibly have transferred over from aircraft tubing joints, since the ones I've seen are angled.
    Marcus...
     
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  10. Six Ball
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    The carryover from wood repairs makes a lot of sense to me. Studying Chevy wood repairs and some stagecoach work many years ago taught me about scarf joints. But tube steel & solid wood don't work the same.
    The car is looking good.
     
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  11. oliver westlund
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    Thanks six!
     
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    Engines a wrap for now! On to the frame!
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  13. oliver westlund
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    Modifying a 35 master shell to try and make it look a little more early 30's. 20240521_094151.jpg 20240521_094146.jpg
    I pie cut the sides taking about 2.5" out at the bottom and completely removed the chin. It will lose about 6" off the chin and get it reshaped a bit 20240521_101220.jpg
     
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  14. oliver westlund
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    This morning I also took an inch out of the center. Really made the look in my opinion
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  15. Six Ball
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    That is really nice work.
     
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  16. oliver westlund
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    Thanks Six! Has a ways to go still but keeps with the theme of the car..."severely confusing without explaination"
     
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  17. Six Ball
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    Most mix & match bodies have a mix & match look with pieces out of proportion and of different styles. This one on working for me.
     
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  18. oliver westlund
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    Thanks! That has been a primary goal of mine. To make it look like a hot rod made from a factory car enough that folks scratch their heads tryin to figure it out
     
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  19. oliver westlund
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    Roadsters k member which is the modified 49 lincoln x member is getting beefed up and finished
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    You can see the leg on the left is the final product minus paint of course. It is also getting a bigger and thicker top plate.
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    With how abusive Skratch and hudson Joe have been telling me these 337s can be to a model a frame I want to make sure I dont cut any corners
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  20. Six Ball
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    Nice! That should do it.
     
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  21. oliver westlund
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    Finished up part 2 on unsplit rear bones with an open driveline!
     
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  22. oliver westlund
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    Here is the basic idea for those who dont want to watch the video. Take a model a front set of bones. Rob the yolk and add it to the rear bones!
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  23. oliver westlund
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    Today I got this far!
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    That was before deciding the bushings were toast and the bushing hole on the drivers side is ovaled. The rear wishbone needed shortened an inch as well.... so its all apart again and parts have been ordered...one step forward ten steps back. At least it will be right!
     
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  24. oliver westlund
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    Started boxing the frame today. 20240605_192829.jpg Got the front brakes all rebuilt and wrapped up, rears need some parts 20240604_105805.jpg
    Also got the rear wishbone wrapped up and the rubber ball on. Checking things off the list! 20240605_122045.jpg
    I put some standard shackles on and am waiting to see... so far I think the front looks too high now. Wont know for sure until the rear is in place and can push it outside and stand back to get a good look
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  25. oliver westlund
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    Progress all over, rear end is in, spring packs together, rear bones are attached and seem to be working how I wanted. New bushings and shackles om the rear. Starting to come together! Has definitely had its share of struggles but that was somewhat to be expected with a car as outside the box as this one.
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    Even started test fitting the radiator
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  26. nrgwizard
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    Hey, Oliver;
    W/the open-driveline, are you sure those 'bones are strong enough? They weren't designed to take the loads like that. Or did I miss something in the "beefing/reinforcement(s)" plan?
    Marcus...
     
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  27. oliver westlund
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    You missed the torsion bar. Ill be making one that runs from the center section to the k member! Its okay though, I dont think Ive mentioned it in a year
     
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  28. nrgwizard
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    Opps, sorry for the fat-finger name-misspell. Missed it before posting.
    Anyways, what I was concerned about was the axle-wrap on accel & de-accel forces on the 'bones. I don't remember any torsion-bars-application(s). Guess I don't read/remember well, but I'm interested in what/how you're going to use them. Not a slam on your build, serious curiosity. I love seeing/studying "different" suspension systems & applications. My favorite(non-IRS rear) was the converging-trailing-link-2-arm suspension, 'till I came across Andys' 3bar & subsequent explanation(s). I'm really liking that for a whole lot of reasons, since it seems to work real well w/an open diff, in controlling the forces equally.
    Marcus...
     
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  29. oliver westlund
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    Just a single bar, I havnt made it yet. I figure I dont need to go crazy, a lot of rods were run with just bones. Adding a single bar should be enough to reinforce. Its coming soon!
     
  30. nrgwizard
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    OK, curiosity on how you're going to use torsion-bar(s) w/cross-leafs & bones is getting the better of me. To quote a past-cool-HAMBer : "Patiently waitng... :D ".
    Marcus...
     
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