Technical Connecting a 1938 ford steering column to a 525 steering box ?

Hi . I’m at the stage with my build now that I’m on to the steering , I have rebuilt the front suspension on my 38 ford and now need to sort out the steering , I have the original steering column / bango wheel but the original steering box is in a rather bad way , so with my build came a new borgeson 525 steering box which I plan on using.
now my question is how are people connecting the steering column to the steering box ?
I have the steering u joint that matches the steering box but would need to know how else to proceed , any info / pictures would be very much appreciated.
Thanks

 

You should be able to bridge the gap using Borgonsen joints. The double D configuration is the simplest approach.
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This will be the same as yours, other than mine is column shift. The u-joint matches the steering box on one end and is 3/4 DD on the other. I took a stub of DD shaft and after cutting the early Ford shaft, I turned it down to plug int the Ford, and welded it. I also machined the brass bushing at the base of the column.

 

Thanks for the information / pictures , exactly what I wanted to see . Could you explain to me abit more about the brass bushing please ? As I read before in a post along time ago about adding a bearing lower down on the shaft .

also nice work with the bracket

 

its because the steering shaft is floppy in the steering column tube. I did the brass bushing for my 39 Ford pickup too. (It had a toyota steering column when I got it)

 

Also, you want a slight amount of space between the u-joint and the brass bushing, and have the bushing reach at least a 3/4" up in the tube. Here is a shot from underneath.

 

I made a fitting that fits into the end of the column but holds a needle roller bearing instead of a bushing.

 

Good info here.
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/another-steering-problem.1292765/#post-14865685

 

Say nailhead, if you do not have access to a machine shop drop by your local hardware store. Get the inside diameter of your column, they have bearings of different diameters that you can press in or hammer in depending. All the ones I’ve used were three quarters inch deep with an outside lip.

 

I think that is what is referred to as a "Wheel Barrow Bearing".

 

WEEDETR make a kit for that very application.

 

Can also cut the end of a later steering column of similar diameter tube and shaft and use the bearing.

 

You still need to figure out how to hook up the horn after doing all this.

 

I bought bearings for a 1948 Ford column I retro fitted for my Deuce that are for a trailer. They are 3\4 inner dia. and the outside has a lip that seats into the end of the tube.

 

Lots of good ideas, not much in the way of part numbers, to help this rodder from England.

 

There are a lot of "Column saver bearings" around at a bunch of different prices sold to do the job.

My experience says that if you do a bushing rather than a bearing everything has to be perfectly lined up or it can bind up or drag a bit. I had that happen when I made a Nylon bushing for the column on my 51 Merc when I swapped columns. I did a 15o mile road trip right after I got it together and ended up at Doc in the box with chest pains that ended up being inflamed chest muscles from working the steering wheel all day. Had a hell of a hot little nurse hooking me up to the ekg though. I switched that out for a bearing the next week.

Not much getting around having to change the horn to an auxillary button on the side of the column or on the dash. There are some wireless horn button setups around though/
https://wolo-mfg.com/horns/horn-acc...universal-wireless-remote-control-system.html

eBay item number:364618395066

 

If you know the OD and ID you can find just about anything
Like this.
Has a 2.15 OD .75 ID

 

I found this part while searching today which I think will work well