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Projects Where in Ohio can I get my 47 Merc flathead rebuilt?

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 47mercragtop, Jun 7, 2024.

  1. 47mercragtop
    Joined: Feb 18, 2020
    Posts: 4

    47mercragtop

    I have aquired a 47 Merc that's been in my family since new. Been sitting in a garage for 25 years and the engine is stuck. Plugs were not in so maybe some rust in the cylinders? Tried squirting some MMO in the spark plug holes but no luck. Anybody have some advice on how to proceed?
     
  2. lucky ink
    Joined: Feb 18, 2011
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    lucky ink
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    About everyone is gone Maybe check with Early Ford Springfield Ohio might know someone.
     
  3. Jagmech
    Joined: Jul 6, 2022
    Posts: 237

    Jagmech

    Snyder's Antique Auto in Springfield, they're model A stuff, but they should know some shop that can rebuild it. Victory Engines in Cleveland does a lot of older engines, 50 years in business, you know the deal , even if it breaks loose could be cracked block/ heads, not to mention rusted bores. Try breaker bar on crank, 1.125" socket, or push gently in gear. Try diesel in the bores also.
     
  4. DragPack69
    Joined: Mar 24, 2009
    Posts: 43

    DragPack69
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    from Ohio

    Where are you located?
    My guy Carl probably can but he's in the NE corner.
    Or maybe Seme and sons in Euclid

    John
     
  5. Chances are there is rust in the cylinders and also the valves/seats that were open. It really should be taken apart and then determine where to go from there. The block may or may not be good - one can't know until it is cleaned and magged. There are not that many places around that know flatheads. For a stock type of build you might get in touch with Hart's Machine Service in Cecil Ohio.
     
  6. 427 sleeper
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    427 sleeper
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    Have you called George's Speed Shop? AFIK, Ohio George Montgomery's son still run's it.
     
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  7. V8 Bob
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    If your near Defiance, give Phil a call at Goller's Hot Rods.
     
  8. kb cookout
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  9. Bert Kollar
    Joined: Jan 10, 2007
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    Metals Crankshaft Cleveland Ohio
     
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  10. A stuck engine on a vehicle that
    has been sitting for 25 years in Ohio
    can be just the tip of the iceberg …

    Does the vehicle have sentimental value ?
    Has it been modified or is is mostly stock ?
    What are your plans & your budget ?
    Do you plan to keep it or sell it ?

    Assuming everything else that is
    associated with the drivetrain
    and suspension and frame is
    in relatively good condition …

    Unless a numbers matching engine
    warrants it for sentimental or monetary
    value - buy another engine.

    I have learned with the passing of
    time - time itself is my most valuable
    resource.


    Jim
     
  11. WOW...I didn't realize Metals was still in business! I used them for crank work back in the late 70's/ early 80's when I first started building my own engines. The only reason I changed is that I found a place that was closer & did the same quality work.

    Since the OP never said where in Ohio he is located, we can only guess. If you are in the Northern Ohio area west of Cleveland....P.C. Automotive in Oberlin has done all the machine work on dozens of engines I have built over the years with never an issue.

    God Bless
    Bill
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/
     
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  12. Thanks for posting that. I've been wracking my giant brain trying to remember the name of that shop. Years ago at least they were the go-to machine shop for a lot of dealerships, garages and racers in the area.
     
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  13. 47mercragtop
    Joined: Feb 18, 2020
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    47mercragtop

    Many thanks to all who have replied. A little more info. I am near Wooster OH. My dad bought this car new in '47 and I inherited it in 2015. Been in his carport from '53-'60, then in his garage until I got it. Was a daily driver until the 70s then just occasionally until around 2000. It's in really good shape all around. It has a Sears rebuilt engine in it which I helped him drop in in 1965 (at age 13!). I have the original engine (numbers match) on a stand in my garage. It's stuck too but IIRC it has a 3/4 cam and 3/16 overbore. I suspect he replaced it due to too much blowby in '65. I've put MMO in couple times maybe 1.5 gal total. This is his wedding sendoff pic from 1948 (if it loads right). IMAG1454.jpg
     
  14. 47mercragtop
    Joined: Feb 18, 2020
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    47mercragtop

    So obviously the car does have sentimental value. My first choice would be to get it roadworthy with the engine that's in it. Because I want to drive it! If that just won't work and I have to do a rebuild I'd put that money into the original engine. What I'm hoping to accomplish is a reliable daily driver, not a show car. So my plan is to get it running, have an Amish guy near here do the upholstery, and put a new top on it. Back in 2007 I rebuilt the carb and replaced all the brake parts for my dad but never got any farther. I put new tires on and now plan to replace the gas tank and lines too. Onward!
     
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  15. Frames
    Joined: Apr 24, 2012
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    Frames
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    I have a fresh rebuilt 59L short block. 3.313 X 4". 400 JR cam. $5.950.00. I have two 8BA short blocks ready to go $5,700.00. 20 miles NE of Charlotte , NC.
     
  16. terry k
    Joined: Jan 8, 2007
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    terry k
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    from toledo oh

    Brothers Custom Automotive in Troy Mi. Builds a lot of Flatheads.
     
  17. adam401
    Joined: Dec 27, 2007
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    If that original engine has been out of circulation since the 60s and stored inside it may be a really good build candidate. It’s tough to find a flathead block that hasn’t been bored yet so if your Dad never had the bottom end done you could really have something good there. I’d break that engine down and have it hot tanked and checked for cracks
     
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