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Technical 1950 International truck transmission swap options

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tjet, Jul 4, 2024.

  1. tjet
    Joined: Mar 16, 2009
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    Is there a direct swap trans for these old trucks? If no direct swap, any adapters available?

    This is for my all original 1950 IH L-122 with a 4 speed & SD200 inline six - pic below.

    Also, I'm not sure what the factory trans model is. It's a non-synchro 4 speed with a granny 1st. I think is either a Borg Warner T-9 or T-98.

    I want to look at all my options.

    Cheers

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  2. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
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    from Idaho

    Your bellhousing pattern is not a standard SAE

    I stand corrected - not what I thought ...
     
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  3. PHuscher
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    Your non-synchro transmission is a T-9. The T-98 is synchronized in 2-4 with a granny 1st gear. It's the closest to a direct swap, and should only require maybe shortening the driveshaft. There were a lot of different companion flanges for T-9's and T-98's, so you would need to be sure you get the right one so the u-joint would match up. A T-19 would require some work, but could be made to fit, and would be synchronized in all 4 gears. Unfortunately, the bellhousing pattern on the SD's, BD's and BG's isn't SAE.
     
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  4. Is the dual rear wheel axle stock on your L-122? I was under the impression that dual rear wheels were an option starting with the 130 series. I had a 1953 R-130 with duals and a 5.67 to 1 axle ratio. Mine had the same transmission as yours. I only used it around the farm, so I never got past second gear. Unfortunately, I suspect your transmission options are limited without swapping the engine.
     
  5. tjet
    Joined: Mar 16, 2009
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    You are correct Andy, the duals came off an early 60's 1-ton with a 6 lug pattern. The main reason I installed them is that I wanted to get away from the locking ring style of wheels. This truck has an unusual "big-6" IH lug pattern, and one piece (non-locking ring) wheels are very rare. I found a pair of 16 x 6 wheels for the front, and later a set of rear 17.5" duallys that are 1-piece, and bolt up to the factory SRW 4.10 axle.

    I know most guys just swap out the axles for a more common pattern & modern brakes, but I kinda like the look of the factory big six hubs.

    Here's a pic of my fronts before they went to get powdercoated. I reconditioned the front drums & hubs.

    I spent a lot of time sanding down these wheels.

    Before & After pics below
     

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  6. Mine had the same big 6 wheels yours did. Very difficult to find wheels for. I swapped a Chevy 14 bolt into mine to get rid of the split rings on the rear, but was stuck with them on the front. You have a neat project. Those IH’s had a much bigger cab than my 1950 Chevy 3100.
     
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  7. tjet
    Joined: Mar 16, 2009
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    Funny story: I was searching for parts for my '50 L-122, and I was talking to a guy that had plans to strip down and cut up a '50 L-151 1-1/4 ton. With all the parts I wanted, he jokingly mentioned I should just buy the whole thing.

    So I did

    It's actually a few inches wider then the L-122

    My goal is to recreate this album cover

    Thanks for the info!!
     

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  8. 1952henry
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    Find a T98 from an international. The T9 was an option til the late 50s iirc.
     
  9. tjet
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    I'm ok with the double clutching. I'm mainly interested in an overdrive if I can find a compatible trans.
     
  10. PackardV8
    Joined: Jun 7, 2007
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    The bad news is older truck 5-speed overdrive trannies are clunky to shift and are only 18% over and an indirect gear, which makes them drive you nuts with the whine.

    The somewhat good news is IIRC, your vintage IH 3-speed T1 trannies could be had with the Borg-Warner R10 overdrive; a 30% over.

    jack vines
     
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