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Hot Rods ID this old altered roadster from Northern California

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by unclescooby, Jul 23, 2024.

  1. unclescooby
    Joined: Jul 5, 2004
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    IMG_5185.jpeg IMG_5275.jpeg IMG_5276.jpeg IMG_5277.jpeg IMG_5280.jpeg IMG_5369.jpeg IMG_5370.jpeg IMG_5926.jpeg IMG_5185.jpeg IMG_5275.jpeg IMG_5276.jpeg IMG_5277.jpeg IMG_5280.jpeg IMG_5369.jpeg IMG_5370.jpeg IMG_5926.jpeg This 1930 Model A roadster was built by the Time Makers Car Club in Woodland California I think sometime between 1957 and 1962.
    I’m hoping to find an old picture of it somewhere to help me know what the paint looked like.
    The car is drilled in every place possible. The doors and decklid are fiberglass and have been since the 50’s.
    The original front end and rearend were pilfered long ago for another project but I’ve got a dropped and drilled 32 axle and am hunting a quick change for it.
    All I can tell is that the car was canary yellow.
    I figured I’d take a shot and see if anyone knows anything.
    Thanks!
     
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  2. wheeltramp brian
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    Jnaki will prolly know
     
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  3. Marty Strode
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    It has a Bonneville/ Lakes vibe as well.
     
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  4. jnaki
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    Hello,

    Thanks for thinking of me. I had the original photos and film of your modified roadster project from the late 50s to 60s. Sorry, you don’t have it anymore. Hopefully, it can be posted, by the new owner, as progress comes to light.

    The first Modified Roadster (that was similar to the Time Makers) is one to come to mind was this colorful photo of a sectioned modified roadster. But, it was owned by Bob Sefton from Arizona. It does have the same characteristics, only it was blue, not yellow.
    upload_2024-7-24_5-1-50.png

    The other modified roadster in the roadster files is the one from Connell Miller. His photo is from the 1958- early days. The roadster in question is the Black Box roadster of Grieco/Clark from So Cal . Color unknown.
    upload_2024-7-24_5-2-37.png
    a great photo from Connell Miller back in the early days is almost an exact copy.

    Jnaki

    Last, but also an old photo from Northern California was from the Denny Forsberg collection.
    upload_2024-7-24_5-3-14.png
    from the Denny Forsberg photo archives

    The Romeo Palamides Roadster is from Northern California and it too, looks similar. The Forsberg Brothers from the Fremont/Hayward/Bay area have the best recollection of that whole area in question. All the way up to the Sacramento area.

    Good luck in your search. If there were dates, month/year involved, I have one more section to jump to, in order to try and find the old roadster from California. Please post the years involved and where, if possible.
     
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  5. Shitbox
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    You might try:
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    the owner(assuming he still is alive/owns it) has been in the area for a long time and is a hot rodded himself. It’s been a long time since I worked there but if irc his name is Jim.
    Good luck.
     
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  6. unclescooby
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  7. rod1
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    Scoob, you find the coolest stuff. I have no info, but I wanted to bring this back up for those that might have missed it. That little Miss Carriage that Jnaki posted is the Bomb!
     
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  8. dirt car
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    A neat "Time Piece" always liked the discoveries as found, have fun tracking the history, follow all the leads, & one never knows some of the missing pieces may even surface.
     
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  9. dirt car
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    Those generous & labor-intensive lightening holes angled forward roll bar struts, & the stout push bars may help tracking photos & the history, but as we know so many of these competition driven cars evolved over the years &/or ownership or even altered to comply with track rules from season to season. Some deviation can be expected for sure, so carefully look over any contributions before discarding, after all as implied it is an altered
     
  10. Stan Back
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    Engine set-back seems a bit more than the even 25% that the early rules allowed drag roadsters.
     
  11. jnaki
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    jnaki

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    If there were dates, month/year involved, I have one more section to jump to, in order to try and find the old roadster from California. Please post the years involved and where the events took place, if possible.



    Hello,

    The important part of any search is the timeline of activity. If it was in the 50s- 60s and up to the 70s, then it is possible to pick up information from several sources. It is like doing a college research project that we used to do until the wee hours. My wife and I were usually sitting between the tall stacks of research book rows in various college libraries that stayed open late. When our local Long Beach State College closed around 10 pm, we drove up to Westwood, where the UCLA bigger library on campus stayed open until 4-5 am.

    What? 4-5 am? That was approaching rise and shine early mornings for surfing the local surf spots. But, the last two years required intense research and writing numerous papers for keeping our grades up and our graduating G.P.A. up. My wife’s grades were always at the top, but I had to up my game in writing skills and researched information to get to her level of quality and grades. And, graduate…

    So, I would be glad to have a relaxed time doing research on drag racing and old history on this roadster. The ones I posted earlier were close, as fast as I searched my own files. But, if I had the specific dates and years it would likely get better results. Now, if I had the specific drag strips, that would be even better. Back then, it was not an odd thing for racers living in Arizona to drive to the Westcoast to race at Lion’s Dragstrip and stay for the whole weekend, including another dragstrip on Sunday. 5-6 hours drive each way.

    As a matter of fact, our Lion’s Dragstrip neighbor that sold his brand of cheater slicks always had a stack of tires and his factory was in Arizona. The distance from Sacramento/Woodland to Lion’s Dragstrip or the Los Angeles area drag strips is around 6 hours. If the dragstrip is Fremont CA, then that is about 2 hours. For an active drag racer, that is about normal for long distance driving to race.

    Jnaki

    So, if you can identify the drag strip that would narrow down the search. The dates and definitely the years of participation. Anything beyond the late 60s through the 70s, changed the whole complex of Roadsters, Gas Coupes and Street Roadsters from active participation to no class to enter, unless you had a fuel dragster, a funny car or a factory “stock” car that was beyond reach for 90 % of the general public.

    So, post it on the HAMB and perhaps other have ideas for their search, too. YRMV



     
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  12. dirt car
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    Some interesting content from jnaki, need to backtrack & read some of his threads regarding the Lions history.
     
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  13. TerrytheK
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    Ditto. Just about every post that @jnaki writes has interesting content!
    These threads researching old resurrected hot rods are pretty interesting too. Be fun to see what turns up!
     
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  14. dirt car
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    Been a participant chasing the history on several old racers from the past for others & myself, a walk through the Speedway Museum among others can be a stroll through times we recall, & so many we could only wish we were around to witness.
     
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