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Technical 1956-64 F-100 water pump adapter

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mummert, Aug 22, 2024.

  1. Mummert
    Joined: Jun 3, 2012
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    Install a car water pump on your 56-64 F Series Y Block.
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2024
  2. Sounds like you’ll need an adapter. Hehe.
     
  3. Mummert
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    You never know. Might have an original pump stashed somewhere for my truck, but most others don't.
     
  4. miker98038
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    Thanks John. One more thing to keep us Yblock guys going.
     
  5. Johnny Gee
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    from Downey, Ca

    One word. Lathe
     
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  6. Mummert
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    Yeah it sure pays spending a day running for material, that they will only sell by the foot with a cut charge of course, measuring both water pumps to find the difference between them( if you have them both) and then machining a part worth $50 bucks. After buying the material you might be able to make $1.75 an hour.
     
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  7. Budget36
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    Naw, just buy a 30-50k CNC machine, measure and program. Simple. ;)
     
  8. Toms Dogs
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    from NJ

  9. well, I have a "truck" pump on my Model A Y block. When I found out the pump pulley would not fit on the pump shaft I drilled the hole out a little and also cut out a small plate to space the pulley out to line up with the crank pulley. I never knew the truck pump was different than the car pump, I just thought I had the wrong pulley and made it work.
    In the years since, I came across a car pump and that is when I found the difference in shaft size. This started a search for different water pump bearing or rebuild kits so I would be prepared for when the my truck pump goes bad. I have never found anything but the one size bearing, of which I guess is the car pump bearing.
    So, is the truck pump kit available? Or will I have to put a kit in my car pump and get another car pulley?
    Oh, and are the car pumps and the truck pumps the same other than the bearing/shaft size? is one better than the other one as far as cooling?
     
  10. Johnny Gee
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    Never purchase material that way. I go straight to the take off section and buy it by the pound. Way cheaper! Even better stock up. That way one doesn’t have to run out to buy each time a little project comes around.
     
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  11. That's all well and good if you have or have access to a lathe and a close, cheap source of material. I've got the lathe, but buying local means a 80+ mile round trip ($20-30 fuel cost) and it won't be scrap price and in most cases I have to buy a 3' piece. I've been buying off eBay lately, as I can usually find material for less than McMaster-Carr and free shipping. But even there, a 2.5" x 6" chunk is $30+, leaving about $35 ($55 plus shipping) for labor. I figure about three hours start-to-finish to have a done part in your hand with my manual lathe, so I'm 'paying' myself about $11 per hour. Better than John's $1.75 but not by all that much these days. If you don't have a lathe and have to pay a machine shop, that $55 starts looking positively cheap...
     
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  12. Johnny Gee
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    Get creative. IMG_2994.jpeg IMG_2995.jpeg
     
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  13. Mummert
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    There is certainly more than one to do it. Just depends on what you have access to and what your time is worth.
     
  14. Mummert
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    Truck pumps are no longer available. Some of the truck pumps came with bigger impellers, but I 'm not sure if that was for the f-600's or regular F-100's.
     
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  15. y'sguy
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    Thanks Geoff for making another handy and well thought out part for us yblockers.

    I ran into to this issue unknowingly and much to my surprise when I did a swap in my 64 292 yblock pickup. I wish I had this part then. It would have been well worth the money. Unfortunately the 64 s gone now but I'll still have my 55 bird forever.

    I believe you, Geoff also reworked the ECG iron heads for my build as one of the last sets before the introduction of the Aluminum. The head work really made a giant difference in my rebuild and was some of the best money spent. And just for fun here's a vid of the rams horns I got from Mummert for the 64 truck yblock. Wish I never sold it!

     
  16. Mummert
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    Nice truck Al, thanks for the kind words.
     

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