Technical For all the negative remarks and no help .. this is for you

I asked that my second post be deleted as I had my first post deleted as well
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Thank you for deleting the post

That said, I have question if I may

I have read tons of posts where Folks put Hemi's in T-Buckets and many many others... 30's, 40's, 50's vehicles and such.. they were cheered on

Many builds used older smaller forged I-beam axles or tube axles

All were cheered on and wanted updates

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Then there were the builds with semi eliptical springs and all kind of different stuff, all were cheered on
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I posted about putting a 1st Gen Hemi in my 65 F100
Nothing but negative posts
Why would you want to do that
The Hemi is to heavy for your truck
The Hemi is too expensive
You should keep the FE in your truck as a Hemi is too expensive
Dont do it as you will have to redo motor and transmission mounts, will be a lot of work and expensive
And many more
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The post I asked for you to delete...

Was the same horse shite

I think either the Folks reading the post did not read it all or ??

They posted shite.... only a few positive ... Squirrel asked if I was using a panhard bar ... I appreciated that
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90 % of you need reading skills that posted in my post
No help, just negative ..... many vehicles have been built as the ones I posted

The suggestions did not pertain to what I asked
Then some tried educate me as to how an F100/F150 axle worked

Then some posted links to a 4 wheel drive .........

I see no off topic to post in ... and I was adviced to post in off topic as I did not want to follow the rules

I see no off topic

Very few have ever contributed anything of value or help me in my posts


Piss off.... if I offended anyone, take it up personally with me ..

Ricky

All your rods are belong to us
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I read all of your thread about swapping a solid axle into your '65 F100, and the majority of comments were against the idea. I did not think any of the posters were trying to offend you personally. I got the idea that they were just trying to point out that what you wanted to do is not a simple job. I have done a bit of internet hunting on the idea, and the best comment I saw (on another site) was that, if you are a capable fabricator, what you want to do is entirely possible. Definitely not a project for the faint hearted, and I think that comes through in a lot of the replies you got.
Bottom line???... If it is what you want and you are capable of the required fabrication work, make it happen!

PS: I didn't post a comment on your thread because what you were asking is above my ability.

 

I didn’t see any of the above posts, or maybe you mean threads ?

But some things to consider.

This is the Hamb, not every comment is always positive, or perhaps it is just taken the wrong way ?

1st Gen Hemi was 1951 - 1958 (according to google) - your truck is 1965.
Most hot rodders didn’t put an older motor/engine in their truck, they usually put in a later model motor, generally to make it go faster I believe.

This forum, is supposed to be about - and I am quoting from the rules here -
“ If you've come here to discuss anything other than Hot Rods or Customs built in a style representative of 1965 or before, you've come to the wrong forum.”

Maybe it didn’t fit into the style representative of ‘65 or earlier.

Or, - Maybe it didn’t fit into other’s expectations of ‘65 or earlier.

Don’t be too critical of “90% of the guys reading skills”, as not everyone has perfect reading/writing skills.

Or, maybe some were just having a bad day……..

if at first you don’t succeed, - try again……..
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My truck is '65 or earlier ??

Why not criticise all the mid 60s cars that had forged straight axles installed

Or all the Folks that post about there off topic late 60s gassers with straight axles

They all have Folks rooting for them

For me this is a simple job, I have learned from a youth to ask others so that I may learn something new

I did not ask if I should do it or not, I asked for advice to see if I was overlooking something or could improve upon it

Folks cheer when someone puts a Gen 1 hemi in a T-Bucket with a wimpy front axle and tiny radius rods or small hair pins ... but my truck is to wimpy for a heavy hemi.. ( 354 weighs around 100 lbs more than an FE ) ........
They also seemed to not read that my truck will be around 32oo lbs and have a 1959 F100 axle, it is beefy and strong.

The radius rods will only be used to locate the I-Beam axle, some missed that, the ones who did not said they were not designed for the load or something like that...... the F100 forged radius rods on my truck if I wished to use them are many times stronger than after market stuff

Boneshaker has a similar setup as I will be using but my parts will be larger and stronger

Why would anyone be against my idea of modifying my truck ??

Why do Folks put a 700 + lb engine in a 32 ford and not get told they should not do it ??
They end up with Folks rooting them on

I dont get it .... I posted the truck will be for car shows and cruise ins
Just something different, I like to modify stuff

It is a challenge to me to see how light I can get the truck after it was my daily driver for over 40 years

I would not build anything not safe and will be seldom driven on a highway


Ricky

 

Was glad to see Non Topic Cars added to the forum...This is about building / driving / discussing
, traditional , custom cars , hot rods . trucks etc....and having fun ..Build it the way you want for yourself....Hemi in a Ford. truck....mmmm......me likey....

 

I dig the idea of the build.

 

There is no kind way to say it. You caught flack and got negative responses that got your panties in a knot simply because for one. removing the twin I beams and hanging a 64 or earlier or Tube axle under it on the coil springs on it is a pretty lame idea is going to require cutting the crossmember out and fabricating a new one. Then you have to have a panhard bar to keep the axle from moving all over the place. And for what? To impress a few WWE tank top wearing mouth breathers at local cruise nights.

A stock early Hemi doesn't have any more power than a good 360 and not as much as a decent 460. Yes they were a big deal in the late 50's and are cool but unless you do serious mods power wise you will be a lot happier with a decent 460. Yes again the truck would have a certain degree of Bubba factor but is going to be heavy on the front end.

I'm 77 years old and have been at this a long time and have seen too many guys screw up a nice rig trying to make something out of it that it isn't just because they think it will be cool and that rig ends up in the back yard abandoned or in the scrap yard all too often. That's why you got those responses. your ideas and especially the axle swap just are not good ideas and you are wanting to do that for the wrong reason.

If you look real close and stick your head under the truck with something in your hand that will go straight across from where the axle sits on the spring and where a solid axle would sit on those coil springs you an see that that cross member is right in the way.

 

‘59 Ford PUs used a tube axle?
I don’t recall crawling under one, but would think I-beam.

 

I had a ‘94 Explorer 4wd. It had radius rods, 99% sure a normal axle in front. And coil springs. So in essence an “old ford beam axle” with coil springs and shocks.
Man that thing rode nice.
Pretty sure the ‘04 F150 4x we had, was set up the same way. Didn’t ride as nice (imo) as the ‘94 though.

 

some times good advice isn't what we want to here

 

Sorry...
Grab a Soy latte an a Midol.

 

Mr48Chev....

I know exactly how a twin I -beam works

I have no idea what WWE tank top wearers are and seek to impress no one

I dont wear panties, I wear briefs

I have a tube cross member with FE motor mounts already that will replace the factory crossmember

You should get out more perhaps and quit being so high and mighty judging people

Tell the guys who put early hemi's in so many different cars made they do not know what they are doing

I will be 70 this year and started building cars, engines, trans and diffs with my Daddy when I was 8 years old

You added exactly nothing to this thread except being smug, you are the one who has there panties in a knot

Ahhh, a 32 Ford with a Hemi would be a bit front heavy as well would it not ??
You should tell all the Folks here all there old cars they put Hemi's in are front heavy and replace them with an engine of your choice

I am building a Ford 418 CI FE I may put in the truck instead, do I need your permission to do that ??



Ricky

 

tim troutman ... you have confused advice with opinions


Hollywood-East... go fly a kite and I have no idea what a soy latte is

Some of yall are the reason I posted originally, yall reek of arrogance and smugness



Ricky

 

Great post.

 

Twin i beam axles were tuff, but they sure wore out tires. I had a couple and swore i would never have another. Beat me up if you want, i can take it

 

And, another pissing match thread to avoid.

 

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forums/off-topic-hot-rods-customs.98/

this forum

 

Aye far Ted. Sew E

 

Hemi in a ford is always neat. Putting one in my 51, except its a gen3. Haters gonna hate.

 

Yeah as stated above, no one put old motors in newer cars back then, just newer motors so what ever you do when you see a late 50's builds and other rods with flathead motors in them be sure to close your eyes because they don't exist according to some...

Now, if you have a the ability to put a straight axle under your truck I say go for it ! If you want a hemi in it again go for it ! The only problems I see doing any of this is your ability to accomplish it.

Hot rodding has never been about popularity, its been about building the fastest thing you could afford, had access to, and/or the ability to build so if you can afford, have access to and and ability to build it then go for it AND be sure to post a build thread as you go....

Good luck !!


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Karen,
You wouldn’t have lasted very long 10 yrs ago on the hamb.
It’s not necessarily the subject that’s the issue.
This shit sounds like a cat fight on Facebook. it too will be deleted is my guess.

 

Need a little cheese with that whine.

 

What a bunch of whiners !

The last time I looked, this IS...a "Hot Rod" forum...right ?

Hot Rods are cars/trucks that have been modified, added to, subtracted from, cut, welded, and bolted to.
We ALL...have the right to modify our cars, trucks the way that we want, and shouldn't be blasted for it.

If you don't like what you read in a thread, or a post, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF !!! MOVE ON...

Now if there is some sort of dangerous situation that the poster seems to be going to, then sure, bring that up, at least sorta...politely.
That doesn't seem to be going on here. Seems that a bunch of fourth graders are attacking the wimpy guy.

The Twin I-beam axle arrangement was a VERY BAD design. My brother had a Ford truck of the same design. I don't recall what year it was, other than it drove like crap. Three or four different front end shops attempted to help, without success. They just told him to deal with it, it's a Ford !
The tires constantly going from negative camber to positive camber...yeah...great freaking design !!!

While I'd be more inclined to do the late model Ford, Crown Victoria crossmember swap (into a car OR truck), than a straight axle, a straight axle is still a MUCH better design than the Twin I-beam...period.
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So, all this is to say Mr. winr (and son), do as you wish...as long as you have the measuring, cutting, trimming, welding, and other skills required to complete a front suspension swap. AND be safe about it.
And DON'T be so thin skinned, that you let others bother you.
Hell I drive a Studebaker, and a Chrysler powered Vauxhall...! Pick on THAT...

Carry on......

Mike

 

What this thread needs is a good henway post right about now.

 

How about a rabbit and pancakes?

 

That'll work!
Both sides of the line are making valid points so let's just call it even and don't sweat the small stuff.

I'd be a rich man if I could just figure out how to make an online filter to catch whatever offends me before it makes it to my inbox. I could sell a million of 'em.

 

the power switch?

 

I think anything with a hemi is cool as shit!

 

Life is tuff, when you sweat the small stuff...