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Projects Gemmer box i.d.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Martinbuilt, Aug 29, 2024.

  1. Martinbuilt
    Joined: Mar 23, 2023
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    Martinbuilt

    I brought a bunch of (mostly) model A parts home today.
    In the mix was this steering box. It has a plastic plug in it, and fresh paint, so it might be rebuilt.
    The number in the casting is 4cc39. It's a Gemmer box.
    Can anyone tell me what it is, and if it's of any use in a pre- '40 build?
    Thanks. 20240829_133211.jpg
     
  2. big duece
    Joined: Jul 28, 2008
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    big duece
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    Looks like you can barely see the sector shaft in the photo, part splined, part smooth 1953-56 F100. Is the steering wheel end splined? The F1, F100 boxes were popular in pre 40s builds.
     
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  3. stubbsrodandcustom
    Joined: Dec 28, 2010
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    stubbsrodandcustom
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    Id guess F-100

    Gemmers were mainly used on Fords and Dodge trucks. The way the sector shaft and worm go into box, its not the desirable F1 box but still hold value.
     
  4. Martinbuilt
    Joined: Mar 23, 2023
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    Martinbuilt

    Thanks.
    It might be too new for what I'm trying to do. To this point, I've managed to stay pre-40 with all my parts.
     
  5. Timchek
    Joined: Feb 24, 2024
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    Timchek

    Not at home so can’t positively I’d thru comparison but it appears like the same box that’s in my 53 F100 as others hav suggested
     
  6. redo32
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  7. Timchek
    Joined: Feb 24, 2024
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    Timchek

    Photos of the old box outta my 53 F100. Digits are different but box appears pretty much identical.
    If the action is smooth and box is in good shape worth a few bucks. Rebuilt boxes go for about $500 in my recollection. I believe 53 - 55 are the same, 56 has couple inches longer steering shaft. IMG_9015.jpeg IMG_9012.jpeg IMG_9015.jpeg IMG_9012.jpeg IMG_9014.jpeg IMG_9015.jpeg
     
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  8. This may help....
    Gemmer.JPG
     
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  9. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    alchemy
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    Seems to be a B600. Sounds like a big thing.
     
  10. B500...... School bus??
     
  11. big duece
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    big duece
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    from kansas

    OP, what is the diameter of the sector shaft?
     
  12. Martinbuilt
    Joined: Mar 23, 2023
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    Martinbuilt

    I'll have to get a measurement on that tomorrow am.
     
  13. Martinbuilt
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    Martinbuilt

    I noticed it looked heavy...
    1.25"
     
  14. big duece
    Joined: Jul 28, 2008
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    big duece
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    from kansas

    I have a pitman arm from a known f100 that fits a 1.250 sector shaft. I would have thought if it were F2, F3 or bigger that the sector would be larger too.
     

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