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Technical what temperature thermostat?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Joshua O'Rourke, Sep 17, 2024.

  1. Joshua O'Rourke
    Joined: Aug 31, 2024
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    Joshua O'Rourke

    trying to figure out which thermostat to purchase for my 1950 Cadillac. my shop manual says the thermostat should stat opening at around 155°-168° and be fully open at 185° yet all the 180° thermostats say they start opening at that temp so I'm just a little confused as to which I should be buying, any suggestions? thanks, Joshua
     
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  2. Budget36
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    Old school was running cool.
    I don’t know Caddy engines, but I’d start with a 180 and make sure things are fine.
    Warmer engine is less wear, burns off deposits in oil, etc.
     
  3. Joshua O'Rourke
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    oh ok never knew that thanks!
     
  4. 50chevytx
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    160 thermostats available
     
  5. Budget36
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    Don’t take what I say as gospel. But I can say a 160 is not the best choice.
    I got worried with the first OT SBC car I bought and the idling temps it would run at. Then found out it was fine:)
     
  6. squirrel
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    160 has the benefit of (if your cooling system is working well) keeping the underhood temperature 20 degrees cooler than a 180 thermostat. This slightly increases wear in the engine, but can dramatically affect heat soak problems with the carburetor, due to the tendency of modern fuel to boil at a lower temperature than 1950s fuel did.
     
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  7. Joshua O'Rourke
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    thats intresting, good to know. My engine had a 180° thermostat in when I took it out so I think I may go that rout again and see the long term results.
     
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  8. Bandit Billy
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    If you live in a cold climate and drive during the winter a 180 makes sense. If not, 160 IMO
     
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  9. ALLDONE
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    your motor will perform way better keeping the heat in the engine and letting the rad have a chance to cool the heated motor coolent... they say... and all my new cars agree,.. best motor temp is a constant 200-210...there I said it.... flame on
     
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  10. tubman
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    The shop manual is out of date because of changes to the formulation of antifreeze. What we have to remember here is that when these cars were new, alcohol-based antifreeze was mainly used. Alcohol boils at a lower temperature than the Ethylene-Glycol-based stuff we use those days, and that was a major factor in running lower rated thermostats. You could lose your antifreeze on a hot day if you were not careful. Thermostat choice used to be a compromise between engine wear and losing your coolant. These days, with better coolant, we can concentrate on "boiling" the contaminants out of your oil without worry. I always run 180 degree thermostats, and have been tempted to try 195's someday in my '51, since I am up here in north-central Minnesota, where it stays pretty cool. I always have something better to, though.
     
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  11. 63401nailhead
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    Can’t go wrong with 180. I recently had a thermostat stuck open for a while and it ran like crap. Got me one of those Robert something or other pricey models, but now running 100% better.
     
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