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Projects Poor man's '36 3 window

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by THR1LL3R, Sep 22, 2024.

  1. Just picked up this 1936 delivery that was in the Dennis Carpenter collection by way of the Early Ford Museum in Auburn Indiana. My buddy Dan was at the Swap meet they had that weekend and sent me Nate's card and the rest is history. Car looks to be fairly stock and starts up and runs. Story is it was a flower delivery car in New York but that's all the info I really have on it. It has after market signals and looks like the option interior spare tire. Right now getting it cleaned up and doing maintenance is the goal. Probably letter the side for my neon sign biz ,run full caps and maybe dual exhaust sooner than later but I will most likely keep my eyes peeled for a donor chassis will juice brakes and newer flathead.
     

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  2. Couple cars for inspiration. Probably won't go as low at Mike Bellows but full caps look great without skirts and obviously hotrod rake is always a winner.
     

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  3. Whoamel
    Joined: Jul 22, 2007
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    from So Cal

    Man that's cool. I've always loved the commercial vehicles..
     
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  4. ironandsteele
    Joined: Apr 25, 2006
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    Love this! Deliveries are so cool.






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  5. alchemy
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    You don’t need to swap the whole chassis to get hydraulic brakes.
     
  6. Great score! Enjoy.
     
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  7. I know that, but if it's a more modern flathead as well it would be a nice swap.
     
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  8. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    Any 59A style will bolt right in. An 8BA style will also with a little extra water pump bracketry.

    Then you can keep your correct serial number on the proper frame.
     
  9. That's a good reason to do so.
     
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  10. Love me a sedan delivery.
     
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  11. Oneball
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    That’s so tidy for a van. :D
     
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  12. tubman
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    "Poor man's"? I had a '36 3-window coupe once, but I could never afford a decent sedan delivery.
     
  13. GordonC
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    That's a neat ride. I was at the museum 2 years ago and they were just finishing the new section and they offered a tour of it for me and my wife. Nice folks and a cool museum.
     
  14. ***Area-51***
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    Yeah, nothing “poor man” about a 36 sedan delivery.
     
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  15. maybe you should have settled for a "fair" one?!
     
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  16. tubman
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    Like many folks I know, I really wanted a sedan delivery until I actually drove one in traffic.
     
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  17. hotrodjack33
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    I've built a couple of panels and a sedan delivery and you soon learn it's the "art of the mirrors" for that pass. side blind spot.
    I was looking for a '36 Sedan Delivery for my last build but couldn't find one. Settled for a '36 Cabriolet...which has a significant blind spot as well.
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  18. EDMAR'S GARAGE
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  19. EDMAR'S GARAGE
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    Sweet! Plus the Early Ford Museum is always a good visit. Coming from the Chicagoland area, you can make a nice day trip out of the Studebaker Museum, Auburn Duesenberg Cord Museum, and the Early Ford V8 Museum. Good luck with the sedan delivery!
     
  20. The museum recently had to get a dealers license because it is getting too many cars donated and is selling them off to generate funds for the museum. Lots of old guys passing and leaving the museum cars in their estate planning. They are really flooded with too many cars. Good place to watch if you are looking to buy a stock early ford.
    This is where they list the cars:
    https://early-ford-v-8-foundation.s...0?page=1&limit=30&sort_by=name&sort_order=asc
     
  21. jnaki
    Joined: Jan 1, 2015
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    Hello,

    Nice find and purchase… Flatheads are nice for a stock motor and keeping it somewhat similar to what the factory looked like back then. Having been the owner of a 1940 Ford Sedan Delivery with a Flathead motor, it was one of the most reliable, non repair motors we ever had. From the time bought it, it ran fine, never needed engine work or repair parts, other than plugs, oil, etc. normal stuff. It took us all over So Cal coastal areas from 200 miles round trip almost weekly in the winter and 400 miles round trip south of the Baja border.

    During the rest of the year, it was a daily driver to high school, some Friday nights, and a lot of weekend all day road trips to various surf spots. The summer surf trips required 50 to 100 mile trips, but it was all worth the effort. It did need oil, but did not have a certifiable leak or smoke of any kind or even residue anywhere on the sedan delivery or concrete pad at home.
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    Now, as a low cost Flathead sedan delivery, it did its intended job. Get to school daily, get to the surf spots without any hassles or stoppages, etc. It did both with flying colors. Being reliable was the most important point. But, on our coastal road trips down PCH to Camp Pendleton surf spots, we always encountered the steepest grade in South Orange County along the coast. At EL Morro state beach, the drop in the highway from dd was steep and got us a running start downhill. Then as we tried to climb the other steep grade in 3rd, instantly it slowed down and had to downshift to 2nd.
    upload_2024-10-8_3-55-53.png Famous Old El Morro oceanfront trailer homes, before the state park designation. And, a pristine point break on specific swells.

    As soon as we all saw this grade on PCH, at first, we checked out the surf. and the lines coming into the rocky point. then we all grabbed on to something as we went down the hill on this northern side as fast as possible in 3rd gear the downhill side gave us a good head start.
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    In California, the Coast Highway 1 in Laguna Beach, (El Morro Grade) is/was the primary one that gave us fits, every time. Since we were always going to the OC for great surf spots, this was the only way to check out the surf spots toward our destination. (Check out the beginning of a popular TV home show called “Christina on The Coast.” It shows the steep grade that she easily makes with her spiffy convertible.) What you see is the El Morro grade is part of what is called Crystal Cove State Park beach.

    We were usually able to continue in 2nd gear, unless there was traffic and that made us shift to 1st to continue the following traffic up to the top of the hill and over. Why? Well we usually had 2 surfers, food, drinks, beach gear and whatever else was throw in the back cave. So, it was loaded down. But, when we had 3 surfers, 3 longboards and now extra gear, the Flathead struggled at most hill grades and this one on PCH was our nemesis on these trips.
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    In the old days, this was an oceanfront, exclusive location for camping. Then the tents turned into trailers and filled up the edges of the highway. Now, it is a State Beach.

    We never took it to the local mountains for winter skiing or just hanging out with our friends. Not enough horsepower to get up those really steep curves and grades to the 8000+ elevation cabins. So, the high horsepower 58 Impala took over those necessary trips, with ease and comfort.
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    One other very steep 1st gear road uphill was the Cove Road in dana point. It was the only way to get to the cove pier and the long walk along the rocky shoreline to the great surf at Killer Dana Point. As the years rolled on, the parking area also expanded, but the road was still so steep that it did not matter, it always remained a 1st gear climb.

    There was no way to get a running start, as the road "T" section prevents such a move. back then, no running start area. just climb. today, there is some room to get a running start, but not a good thing.

    We lived with the inconvenience of the flathead as the rewards at the end of the road trip (outstanding waves) far outweighed the difficulties of an underpowered 80 hp Flathead motor. We made do with what we had. (in the Dana Point Cove, the Killer Dana Parking Lot was at the end of a steep downhill, narrow road.
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    The parking area expanded, but in the end of the day prep, we had to get ready to climb that very steep hill fully loaded with the normal beach/surfboard stuff in 1st gear.

    After we started up the hill, it was all 1st gear and fully loaded, no one wanted to be behind us as it took forever to slowly plod up the very steep road. But, many times when we saw the bored and stroked high horsepower, Flathead motor on a stand at Reath Automotive, we were tempted, but the cash outlay far surpassed our actual savings account.

    Jnaki

    On the other side of the equation, 4 years after I sold the Flathead powered sedan delivery, my wife and I purchased a hot rod project that took forever to get it right, but that is what a project car does… extends the fun the hard way…
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    It was a 327 powered 40 Ford Sedan Delivery with a 4 barrel carb and auto transmission. It was powerful enough to drive anywhere. YRMV







     
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