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Technical ***September 2024 Banger Meet Thread - First BER Month ***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Sep 2, 2024.

  1. trikejunkie
    Joined: Dec 2, 2011
    Posts: 226

    trikejunkie
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    from Scotland

    I`m still here , had a busy time of late-racing at Pendine (no better than last year speed) and racing at Santa Pod in the flathead meltdown .I havent broken the car despite flat to the floor throttle so roll on next year!
     
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  2. No pictures
    Too much covering head and pistons in cert
    Old record 133.1
    Set 133.8 yeah not much but with a banger just finishing a pass is a win
    Typical CREE and Nelson entry
    Owen drove
    Damn teenager

    J
     
  3. trikejunkie
    Joined: Dec 2, 2011
    Posts: 226

    trikejunkie
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    from Scotland

    As I was no faster at Pending a cam is on my shopping list! Anyone recommend one for a B 4 banger? even a supplier of one would be great .
     
  4. Here's a few screengrabs from my video of the RPM Nationals. It was quite the event! I'm motivated to get my coupe ready to race for next years event, we'll see what happens! [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  5. burl
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 861

    burl
    Member
    from Minnesota

    Kevin,
    Curious where you mounted the sensor in the exhaust and how much difference it makes. On my car it made quick time of figuring out what main jets to run.
     
  6. Kevin Pharis
    Joined: Aug 22, 2020
    Posts: 587

    Kevin Pharis
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    from Califunny

    Sensor placement does matter… but I put mine in a convenient, and more importantly hidden, location. I’m no expert, but I’m told that too close to the header collector and the sensor will read erratic due to pulses. I run an iron manifold and the sensor is a couple feet away. Workin great so far.
     
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  7. So my understanding is that the sensor needs to be far enough away from the port or ex valve to reduce the temperature
    But also far enough away from the open end of tailpipe to not read reverberation air drawn from outside

    J
     
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  8. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,827

    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    Will done, a record is a record!
    & Don't worry he won't be a teenager for long :D
     
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  9. Stan Back
    Joined: Mar 9, 2007
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    Stan Back
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    from California

    Give my congratulations to Owen on his first of one, I imagine, many records.
     
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  10. Thank you...
    No wonder there's a leak after every drive I take and yes,the oil seems to be coming put of every possible place....
    The cap is short and it's not ventilated....
    Can't think of a solution.
     
  11. Vent the valve cover plate
    J
     
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  12. Dan from Oakland
    Joined: Jan 16, 2009
    Posts: 215

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  13. Fabber McGee
    Joined: Nov 22, 2013
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    Might as well add oil through the valve cover too.
     
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  14. Savage Coupe
    Joined: Jun 20, 2020
    Posts: 80

    Savage Coupe
    Member
    from Washington

    Had to unload and drive the hot rod through the Chandelier Tree on the way home from RPM Nationals.

    IMG_7133.jpeg IMG_7135.jpeg
     
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  15. chlsnk
    Joined: Dec 11, 2008
    Posts: 43

    chlsnk
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    from Kansas

    Does anyone have any advice on installing a model B distributor in an A engine. After some reading I realized the B engine has the timing pin in a different location than an A engine. I would assume I just need to get #1 to TDC and point the rotor to #1 on the cap. Probably over thinking things.
     
  16. BeaverMatt
    Joined: Jun 17, 2013
    Posts: 57

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  17. Dan from Oakland
    Joined: Jan 16, 2009
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  18. Lättähattu
    Joined: Oct 29, 2009
    Posts: 101

    Lättähattu
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    from Finland

    I found this timing tip somewhere, i don't remember where. Not really accurate, but this is how i did it:
    - Find the TDC with timing pin and model A timing cover
    - Turn distributor rotator so that it is NOT centered to distributor cap #1 cylinder lead, but rotators trailing end is meeting #1 lead. This should give you about 19deg advance
    As i said, not really accurate. Works for me pretty good. After running engine, i retard timing just little, cause starter had hard time to turn engine when hot.
    This is my set up: Model B engine, Head milled to about 5.2:1 compression, Lightened flywheel (about 14 pounds lighter than stock model B), Dual Stromber 81s and Model A timing cover (cause i did not have anything else!)

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  19. chlsnk
    Joined: Dec 11, 2008
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    chlsnk
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    from Kansas

    I appreciate the response.
     
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  20. 4BangerDean
    Joined: Aug 10, 2013
    Posts: 257

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    It seems difficult to find someone who is capable or willing to build a full pressure insert bearing B engine. Any recommendations?
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2024
  21. jet996
    Joined: Jul 10, 2024
    Posts: 34

    jet996
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    from WY

    @trikejunkie -I can recommend Bill Stipe's cams. I've got an RR340 in my pickup and it runs real good. I've also got an Isky 1007b in my roadster that @Pete1 ground and it goes really well in my light roadster. Plus it's lopey so that's cool heheh.
     
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  22. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
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    Outback
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    from NE Vic

    Any video of them running?
     
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  23. 282doorUK
    Joined: Mar 6, 2015
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  24. jet996
    Joined: Jul 10, 2024
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    jet996
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    from WY

    @Outback -There's a couple of my roadster at the HotRod Hillclimb on IG. I can't remember if I have any of my p/up.

    @turnpikecruiser31
     
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  25. Star 351
    Joined: Sep 9, 2013
    Posts: 63

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    Stipe 340 in a burtz
     
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  26. Star 351
    Joined: Sep 9, 2013
    Posts: 63

    Star 351
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    Couple of things you could do, fabricate a longer filler tube that clears and add a vented cap, vent the valve cover, the best solution (but does require a bit or work) is the add a pcv above the running oil level in the valve cover and add a vented cap to the oil fill tube you have to keep the crankcase in a vacuum, will help to keep the oil clean for longer and reduce fumes inside the car if done correctly
     
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  27. 4BangerDean
    Joined: Aug 10, 2013
    Posts: 257

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    It’ll be here Tuesday. I figured it was the best way moving forward not being a machinist or knowing one.
    I still would be interested in having a B engine built. I have 2 blocks that passed a 30# pressure test and more than a couple “C” cranks.
     
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  28. 282doorUK
    Joined: Mar 6, 2015
    Posts: 473

    282doorUK

    I decided on a Burtz after all the sneaky cracks in my B block made them selves known, being over here I reckon it's probably the cheapest and most reliable option.

    Just spent a few happy hours on a friends big old lathe hacking the flywheel down to around 35 pounds.

    It was a bit of a hand full after my little Atlas lathe!

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  29. Outback
    Joined: Mar 4, 2005
    Posts: 2,827

    Outback
    Member
    from NE Vic

    Thanks I'll have a look, I got kicked off IG for no reason, but should still be able to watch a vid?
    When a lathe makes a flywheel look small you know it's a biggin!

    thanks, that sounds great, looks good too.
     
  30. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 493

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