Hey guys, I have a 37 Ford coupe that had a 351C with a T5 in it. The car started out built by my dad with an auto and a pete and jakes brake pedal that worked ok. When i swapped it to a manual I went with the pete and jakes brake and clutch pedal because I figured it would work since the auto brake pedal setup did before. Well the brake pedal rubbed the bell housing and the clutch pedal was extremely close to brake pedal which made for fun driving. After some modification I got the setup to work ok but the brake pedal still rubbed the bell housing a little. Now I've done something stupid and ripped the 351C and T5 out to install a Ford 7.3 Godzilla in the car. I got the engine dropped in and the brake pedal isn't going to work. It'll probably hit the bell housing worse and it'll also break off the crankshaft position sensor located back there. The Pete and Jakes can't easily be made to work because the clutch pedal is mounted inside the engine side of the xmember and follows the bend of the xmember towards the outside of the car. This means I can't just bend/modify the clutch pedal more towards the drivers side or it'll hit the xmember. So I'm back in the market for brake/clutch pedal ***emblies. I was looking at stock 39-40 Ford pedal ***emblies and they mount the clutch pedal on the drivers side of the Xmember and then brake pedal on the p*** side of the xmember. This is probably what I need to work best on my car. Does anyone replicate the 39-40 pedal ***embly with modern pedals? My concerns are 1. Are the stock pedals cast so they can't be bent or modified slightly if necessary. 2. How is the stock clutch linkage actuated? because I'm currently running a hydraulic setup and I'm not sure how whats on the the stock clutch pedal that I could hook up to the hydraulic setup or build a manual clutch linkage setup if necessary. Thanks
https://ch***isengineeringinc.com/wp-content/uploads/product_images/AS-2034R.jpg I have one of these in my 32. I think it's based on 39 but cant say for sure. The pedal shaft has been replaced with a longer one so that a clutch pedal can be mounted on the left side, putting it adjacent to the ch***is rail. Clutch master mount is a separate plate picking up on the brake master mount and the inner side of the ch***is rail. Works great. Pedals are fashioned out of steel plate. Original pedals are forged and can be bent (hot) readily. Chris
Original Ford pedals are forged and can be heated and bent. The mount to the frame is cast I think. 39 pedal ***embly will have the clutch actuator lever on the inside. A 40 ***embly will have a lever on the clutch pedal itself.
Pardon my ignorance but it appears thats just a brake setup. You mention something about a longer shaft and putting a clutch pedal on. Is that something you did or something they offer because I didn't see it on their site, I may have to call them.
Thank you. How did the 40 actuate the clutch fork with the linkage on the drivers side. I guess I should look maybe its possible to for the stock 39 pedal to operate my clutch fork with a little work. I ***ume they pushed the clutch fork not pulling it correct? I'm glad to hear it can be heated and bent, does that mean it can be welded too? I hope to leave the bracket on the frame alone but I ***ume the stock brake pedal will need work to avoid the bellhousing/crank sensor.
A 39 pedal arm pushed on the arm on the bellhousing. A 40 arm pushed on an arm on an idler, which was directly in line with the pivot shaft of the bellhousing. If you are unfamiliar with this stuff I recommend looking at the diagrams on the Mac VanPelt site.
I didn't do it myself but its pretty straight forward. I'll find a pic. I think the shaft is pinned in the bracket. The ends of the shaft are drilled and tapped to keep the pedals in place. The pedal mounts are in single shear on the shaft, but it's all substantial stuff. Chris
I started out using stock '40 pedals and bracket on my '40 with an FE Ford. Problem during mock-up was the 01A '40 brake pedal was also contacting the bell housing during full stroke with the curved lower section. Luckily, I found a '41-'48 09A brake pedal in my collection of parts that is similar to the '40 above the floor, but is flat on the bottom, clears the bell, and could be the solution to your problem.
I'll try to do some internet research and try to find pics comparing the two. If an FE bell housing that gives me hope it might clear a modular.
If you go to Ebay, you'll find several 09A pedals or '41-'48 pedal sets showing the difference in lower arm shapes.
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