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Technical Best Fuel Line Material?

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  1. Budget36
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    There are also DOT approved compression fittings, a must on air lines on semi trucks when my dad had his business. Kept the tubing from being over swaged.
     
  2. 1971BB427
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    SS, aluminum, and for short hose runs I use the newer hose rated for fuel injection systems. It's tougher, and rated for ethanol based gasoline mixes. A little spendy, but worth it for such short runs as I use it.
     
  3. 1971BB427
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    Not sure those old hoses ever saw any ethanol based gas? I used regular rubber hose in two 6" sections between my fuel cell to my fuel filter to allow me to service the fuel filter on my Austin gasser. Brand new hose started leaking in just 2 years! I walked into my garage to see a 4 ft. puddle of gas under my car! When I removed the hose to replace it I found it was soft and spongy and the gas was seeping through the rubber!
    I replaced that hose with alcohol rated high pressure rubber hose a decade ago, and never had another issue.
     
  4. gimpyshotrods
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    I have Earl's Vapor Guard hoses on most things where flex is required.

    Stainless is overkill, but you do you.

    Whatever hard lines you use, make sure that they are properly supported and anchored.

    Vibration is not good for any of them.
     
  5. Kume
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    Copper. all day long.
     
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  6. arse_sidewards
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    Nickle copper alloy for brakes is so cheap and so easy to work with I'm surprised anyone uses anything else for much of anything these days.
     
  7. 57tailgater
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    For hard lines I have always used brake line material with inverted flare connections and had no issues. For areas needing hose, just make sure it is compatible with the fuel being used. If they are not compatible, there could be a multitude of reactions causing degradation of the hose which leads to leaks.
     
  8. Kelly Burns
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    What is the reason for "coiling", what appears to be copper line? Is it to give it an area of flex, to keep it from cracking?
     
  9. Mike Lawless
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    Here in California, ethanol laced fuels are all there is. Now I may have gone overkill on Ol' Furd, but I went SS hardlines back to front with PTFE braided hose and AN fittings for the flex lines. To me, it's only a little more difficult to work with than plain steel. There is no way I'd use aluminum for fuel lines. My OT drag racer, which runs on methanol, would have eroded aluminum fittings after two seasons. At the beginning of one particular season, I had fuel leaks pop up one right after another. Fix one, another let go.
    I didn't wanna get stuck in BFE somewhere with Ol ' Furd with failed fuel lines. So I went the extra mile.
    I did use a rubber hose for the vent line. Two years after the truck was up and running, and happened to check it while I was in the neighborhood, so to speak. It was hard as a rock. Goodyear brand emissions hose.
    Either the fuel vapors are responsible, or rubber hose just ain't what it used to be.....or both.
    YMMV
     
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  10. Ericnova72
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    Kelly,
    Yes, that's right.
     
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  11. Kelly Burns
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  12. Mike Lawless
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    Here's a motor shot. You can see the hard lines on top routed around the valve cover, with the PTFE braided lines connecting those to the chassis lines. The chassis lines run along the side of the frame rail all the way to the tank, and connect to that with a short PTFE braided line.
    What remains to be seen is how long this will stay up before being taken off, since the induction is OT. It is here for illustration purposes only and to respond to Kelly Burns request.
    FurdMotor.jpg
     
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  13. Kelly Burns
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    @Mike Lawless thank you, I saved it, in anticipation of the removal! LOL
     
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  14. ekimneirbo
    Joined: Apr 29, 2017
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    A couple of articles ............

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    Tools.....Get a 37 degree flaring tool. Some are very expensive but if you shop around you can find a reasonably priced one. The one in this pic cost about $90 (?) if memory serves me correctly. It doesn't just push the flare, it travels in an eccentric circle as it flares and helps prevent cracking .

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    As for the tube benders, I'd look on Amazin......... I have some like in the picture below, but I bought some off Amazin for larger tubes and wanted to make a special modified tool to get bends real close behind a fitting. I really like them.

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    You can make a bend on a short piece of tubing. Mark the tube where the little "hook" on the bender goes over the tube. When you get ready to bend a long tube 90 degrees to go across and attach to a crossmember, lay the short piece of tube where you want the bend to be. Make a mark on the fuel line at the same place as the one on the short tube.

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