What Black Paint would Henry Ford use today? In my opinion, Base coat/ Clear coat is just to pretty and deep to reproduce the Black that was on the '30's-50's cars. It used to be Alkyd Enamels, or even Synthectic Enamels back in the day. If you know what the correct proceedure is to obtain that "PURE BLACK" not exceptionally glossy finish, PLEASE share it with me. I wonder what they used on Ryans Coupe ?
Glenn -Ihave not painted in several years so I am not in the loop so to say,But back in the day- Caddy Formal or Limiousine Black was a deeper pitch black than say a chevy color...Just like he****s were,too! My buddy Roger Ward whose black cars are noticed by anyone who sees one,uses an Import color-I believe it was a Honda or Toyota black that was noticeably more of a "pitch"black ,than others are.... I noticed that some GM blacks are a bit -grayer- than other's codes of black are.
Dupont Centari "Pitch Black" acrylic enamel with the 793S hardener is easy enough to use and is black all the way through; no peeling clear coat a few years later. The Pitch Black is just a fleet color that's avialable almost anywhere. You can spray it in the driveway, color sand and buff in a day, and it looks like retro factory. pigpen
.....and to think that I thought Black was Black Thanks for the information, I guess I'll look into those options.
The answer is: Yes, yes, and thank you very much. With the Centari, you can sand out the runs and the dirt, and polish it just like lacquer. My '41 was painted in the driveway/backyard, piece by piece, four years ago, by yours truly. Another good thing about black is that you can paint the car a fender at a time while it's still apart without having to worry about color match when it all goes back together. pigpen
Usually...as long as it's from the same batch, or you mix several batches during the painting process for consistency, or you get lucky, or you have a mixer who knows what he's doing. Sometimes at the shop, the "universal DBU 9700" would not match between Ford, GM and Chrysler vehicles in all cases. Black was not always black. Even mixes of the same paint code made days apart could vary. I've painted cars with the correct coded black on the car, and it was either "too black" or "too brown". Believe it or not, black has many shades, as does white. And white is one of the hardest colors to "match" correctly in my opinion. Beautiful ride, by the way...
I've always had good luck with DuPont Centari, but the blackest black IMO is Sherwin Williams Super Coach Black. I used that on a race car ch***is years ago and it flowed on just great, in the garage no booth.
Get a Mercedes or BMW black which believe it or not, has a lot of blue in it which truly gives a rich black....I have a late model black Corvette and it is horrible out in a bright sun....I would also use a single stage and not a base/clear
I agree with you (AND YOUR CAR HAS A KILLER LOOK )..I have use it on a ton of car ..Easy to shoot and very deep .Everyone thinks it base+clear Paint Code for Dupont Centari "Pitch Black" acrylic enamel is 99A
If my memory serves me correctly, I believe Henry used Jap Black enamel which dried the quickest (and that is the reason that I have run across for "any color as long as it is black"). Much of Henry's effort and success came from getting the car into the hands of the m***es. He was a real advocate of time study, every second counted to him. Also I interviewed some of the old timers that worked for Henry and one of the painters told me that they mixed blue in the black to get a super deep shine. I never asked this painter if this was the norm or the exception. Never do***ented it as to whether it was true at all, but I have added as much as a quart of a deep blue to a gallon of black and I liked the results.-Jim
Henry Ford woud have still had the balls to tell the ****ingovernment to go to hell with their EPA rules and still painted cars with what he ws painting them with in November of '42.
In November of 42, Henry was not painting many cars because production was shutting down for the duration of the war. What he was painting, was jeeps, for the government, and they were olive drab green. Glad to be reminded of Centari, is it the nasty stuff you shouldn't breath?
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