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Technical Good RPM’s for motor driven bead roller?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Budget36, Dec 11, 2024.

  1. Budget36
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    Heck, HF doesn’t carry them anymore, at least I couldn’t find them if they do.
    The delivered Eastwood price (probably made in the same factory) was around what it would have cost at HF years back.
    The one I got was on sale with free shipping, came to 162 and change to my door. Well, it’s not here yet;)
     
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    Harbor Freight winch, spider coupler with a nut welded on to it, Amazon 12V power supply, Amazon PWM module and an old guitar wa-wa pedal
     
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  5. lostone
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    @ekimneirbo yeah I looked at using different motors but I figured by the time I bought all the different gears, chain, etc I'd be spending more to try and save less.

    So a quick look on ebay and I had a motor that was low rpm and reversible. No gears or chains or a bunch of brackets to make.

    The switch on top is 3 way, left-off-right.

    So I ended up with variable speed and reversible....

    ....
     
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  6. Jmountainjr
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    I prefer a slower speed with decent torque. My current setup uses an 1/4 HP AC motor originally speced for a rotisserie. It's 6 RPM with 600 in/lb of torque which is overkill, as is the HP. I wired up a reverse switch and run it through a foot pedal control. It's directly coupled to the roller shaft with a Lovejoy coupling. I found the motor NOS for $30 at an auction selling off the inventory of an old electrical warehouse.
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  7. flatout51
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    Sewing machines have potentiometer pedals. Couldn't you wire one of those in?
     
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  8. lostone
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    That's what I did....


    ...
     
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    harbor freight winch motor.. 100 percent works perfectly
     
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  10. gary macdonald
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    Well here is ugly ducky
     

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  11. Budget36
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    Ugly doesn’t matter if it works!
     
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    You can buy new , amazon, aprx $20
     
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  13. Budget36
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    And the bead roller was just dropped off, so time to start getting busy with fitting things up.
     
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    That’s the plan. Figure it before hand, and go from there. The sewing machine pedal will be a big plus as well

    I may have a pedal, when the Ex left, her machine stayed. I may have tossed though.
     
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  15. Jmountainjr
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    When piecing together the power control for your roller project check the compatibility of the components. Make sure the foot control has an amperage rating suitable to the motor you are using. The typical sewing machine pedal is rated between 1 and 2 amps.
     
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  16. Jmountainjr
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    I went through a phase trying several DC motors which were typically 10 RPM and about 1/10 HP. They were OK, but I wanted a bit slower. I stumbled onto the current new old stock AC motor at an auction liquidating an old electrical shop. I bought it for $30. If you search the model number they pop up new for $600+. So not practical. But there has to be some used ones out there to rebuild, or someone selling remans. This motor was used in a rotisserie like the chicken rotisserie in almost every grocery store, or a close application.
     
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  17. lostone
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    My motor is 1.4 amps so I'm safe... that's why I like these motors, they use gear reduction for torque, they are wired to be reversible, they are 110 volt. And with a foot pedal both hands are free to control the sheet metal.

    No need for gears and pulleys or chains, no need for converter boxes for power, no need to keep a car battery around the shop or to keep it charged.

    When I need my bead roller, I roll it out, plug into an outlet and flip a switch to control which way it goes and press a pedal and control the speed I want. Ready to go in about 1 minute. When I'm done, Unplug from wall, wrap the cord around the roller along with foot pedal cord and back against the wall, again another minute or two and it's done.

    I gave the foot pedal about 7 feet of cord so I have plenty of cir***ference around the bead roller to do all varying sizes of sheet metal.
     
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