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Hot Rods Homogenized ‘28 roadster build

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Anderson, Oct 24, 2021.

  1. Anderson
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    It’s more of an exercise in design and prototyping. I could have cut it out by hand and drilled the holes too but I find myself choosing this route more often than not lately.
     
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  2. Anderson
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    For the first time in a very long time, I have this whole week off for Christmas. But we don’t have any plans, so expect roadster progress!

    Today I finally tackled the steering column. It’s a speedway offering with turn signals and hazards, and it’s stainless. The only problem I had with it was where the wiring exits, way too high. So I disassembled and cut it apart, cut a new piece of stainless tubing, and polished everything while I was at it. Welded it back together, reassembled and refit it to the car. Then cut a new hole just behind my column drop. Now I can complete wiring.
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  3. Anderson
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    Well, I’d say it’s wired now. There’s still the tach light left. And the alternator charge wire when I get my megafuse holder. Even turned the engine over, so I know my starter conversion worked out.
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  4. Tim
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    Saw the videos on Instagram. Getting damg close!
     
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  5. As always your build and style shine thru, great build! Been following since the start, though first time I've commented.

    Bitchin' Hot Rod!
     
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  6. Anderson
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    Thank you Jimmy!
     
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  7. Anderson
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    Been buttoning up a bunch of little stuff, painting tie rod ends, adjusting caster, tightening things down, etc. Painted the exhaust with some high temp rattle can stuff and installed it so I can finish the tail pipes. Painted something else and am trying to find a pinstriper to finish it up.
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  8. Dedsoto
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    oh you tease!
     
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  9. Anderson
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    I made the call to swap intakes. I didn't have the confidence that I'd be able to do a good enough job on the rebuild of the Rochesters, or that mine were in good enough shape to start with. And I want as few hiccups on engine break in as possible. So I picked up a 4 barrel intake and carb and swapped it on. Then went ahead and finished the fuel line to the carb and the choke cable, but am now waiting on a different throttle pedal to finish up that linkage. Had to swap valve covers too because the new intake doesn't have provisions for an oil fill tube or breather...and while these are made by a company with the "B" word in its name, they are actually die cast aluminum and I thought they looked pretty darn close to my shaved Corvette covers...and they were cheap, so they'll do. I would prefer chrome stamped stock covers but those were twice as expensive. Topped it off with an air cleaner made by United Pacific.

    I also finished the exhaust, installed my megafuse holder, wrapped all the wring, final installed the dash and gauges, routed the oil pressure and temp gauge lines, and a handful of other things I'm probably forgetting. It's getting very close to firing up.
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  10. Anderson
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    Been chipping away at small stuff all week. Had to put the octagon hole steering wheel back on it because the offset was better to clear my knee. Still need to tweak the shifter handle some. Got the right oil filter for the early style setup and there’s oil in the engine now. Wrapped up the PCV system.

    My starter adaptation might not be so perfect after all. Seems there’s some misalignment, and no matter what I’ve tried it still sounds awful. Still turns the engine over though! I’ll probably run it as is for now, but have the proper 168 tooth stuff in the Summit cart.

    This is the list of stuff to do before firing the car. I’m a list guy and have had one on my phone for this car for the last 3+ years. Feels good to have it whittled down to just this. From early on I decided I didn’t want the car running unless I could take it around the block immediately after break in. Looks like I got my wish. Most of this will get knocked off the list tomorrow (snow day) and break in will probably happen Saturday or Sunday.

    Fuel overflow line
    Adjust alternator
    Tach cable - ordered
    Rear end oil
    Trans fluid
    Antifreeze
    throttle pedal - ordered
    throttle linkage
    bleed brakes and clutch
    Rear end vent

    Transmission cover - this is one I intended on fulfilling after the car was running. Drive it to the shop and use the equipment on hand to make something. But my new job doesn’t have quite as many tools, so I may be making something pretty simple at home. It doesn’t need to be fancy, just a cover.
     
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  11. Wow just read the whole thread.Great workmanship and talent! Very impressive!
     
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  12. Please let me know when everything is sorted out cause I'm interested Anderson!
     
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  13. What a neat and clean wiring job.So much attention to details....love it!
     
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  14. Anderson
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    The engine is primed and all fluids are in the car. The brakes and clutch have been bled. An attempt was made to start it and she was trying to fire off when my starter took a dump. Turns out my attempt to fit the 153 starter failed. Now I’m in the same boat of having to swap flywheels and starters as I was in a while ago. But the new parts are on the way, along with the throttle pedal that had been delayed by weather. I really think next weekend will be it. I got insurance on it so I can go register it to and be street legal.
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  15. Anderson
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    Man am I annoyed.

    I forgot what size clutch I had and couldn't find the receipts. I bought a steel 168 flywheel and a new AC Delco starter to swap out the 153 stuff that didn't work. Got everything pulled apart (took some clearance work but was able to get the transmission out without messing with the engine) and turns out it's a 10.5" setup. The flywheel I bought is 11" only. So I turmoiled over whether to buy a stock 11" pressure plate (what I have is Centerforce) that would still need an expensive disc to adapt to the 14 spline T5, or to pony up for the correct flywheel. I could get another steel one that would work for $300, but then the aluminum RAM flywheel (which is what I had originally and wanted to use) was $400. In the end, I ordered the aluminum. From Summit. Who was shipping it from the Arlington, Tx warehouse to my house IN ARLINGTON TX. Ordered late wednesday night and I got a notification that it would be delivered Friday as expected. It would have taken me an hour to get there after work Thursday plus waiting at the store and then getting home and I didn't feel like doing that after a long day of work. If it could be delivered Friday I would be able to assemble everything Friday night...which is now tonight...instead of farting around on the hamb. Well, UPS has some bullshit weather delay reason it didn't get delivered. There's no weather here. Representatives aren't any help and can't even tell me if I would be able to pick it up somewhere in the morning or not. Summit won't cancel/return it and let me pick up another one in the morning so I'd have to buy another one, and then return the first when it shows up. Shit happens, I get it. I just REALLY want to wrap this thing up.
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  16. Tim
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    Ugh.
     
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  17. Dedsoto
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    That blows, no problem using a 10.5" disc with an 11" plate if you need to
     
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  18. Anderson
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    Yeah, and I considered it. But my original plan was the aluminum flywheel and better than stock clutch. I didn't want to abandon that because I bought the wrong parts years ago. This morning tracking says it'll be delivered today, which seems unusual for UPS but we'll see.
     
  19. Really neat little hot rod. I’ve been watching Andy Southard Jr archival footage on YouTube and this thing would fit right in at any 60’s Bay Area and LA Roadsters meetup!
     
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  20. Anderson
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    No flywheel. Too cold to mess with it anymore this weekend even if it does show up tonight. But I did get (nearly) every other thing crossed off the list. Gas pedal mounted and linkage made. The pieces holding the pedal to the cowl bracing will be replaced with a something much better when I have the time. Ran the tach cable…just bought one for a ‘57ish Corvette and it’s a good fit and length. Finally tossed the rotted old seat riser and fit the new one I’ve had for a while. Also installed a USB charging port in the front of it and cheated on the wiring, running it off of the midi fuse block with an in-line fuse under the seat. Now after I get the transmission reinstalled (other than break in) the only thing left to do is a transmission cover.
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  21. 270bob
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    I like your build. I just started to follow along and really appreciate the work you have done. I would rethink your gas pedal design. Your throttle linkage is passing through the firewall and that is not good unless you are into your throttle sticking open. I would be glad to show you some examples, but I don't have any pictures available to me at the moment. However, look at a stock 32 Ford set up, 64 Mustang or Fairlane and replicate that. It is always best to not have a bend in the linkage rod too. A straight linkage won't feel spongy while driving. Again, I like your car and want you to be safe, Keep Hammering. Sincerely, Rob Crouse
     
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  22. Anderson
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    The hole in the firewall will be enlarged and refined once the trans is in place and everything is back to its permanent location. It's also 1/4" rod and plenty stiff. I appreciate your input and concern Rob.
     
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  23. 270bob
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    Think about how well that setup will work when an engine torque in the chassis or even worse when an engine mount breaks. Do yourself a favor and fix it. I know you are hurrying to finish, but please take the time to make it safe. I will send a picture with some ideas when I find them.
     
  24. 270bob
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    I was being respectful, you are not. There is ne sense in being stupid unless you can prove it. Good luck with your endeavors.
     
  25. Lookin' better all the time!!
     
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  26. Anderson
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    New flywheel in and everything back together. Ended up having to put a mini starter on it because the snout of the full size was interfering all over the place with the bellhousing. Mini starter doesn’t have that snout. Front brakes adjusted then set it back down and rolled it outside. Tried starting it yesterday but something isn’t happy that might be the coil. Stabbed the distributor multiple times, firing order is correct, changed plug wires, and still nothing more than jut barely trying to run. There is spark but it seems weak. I filled my frame mounted filter with fuel and even poured fuel down the line from the carb to the pump trying to get it operating. But was also fighting with draining the battery every time and becoming frustrated. Will try again with another coil.
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  27. Tim
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    Another coil is a good bet and an easy swap. Has it got a points distributor?

    its soooooo close. Shits frustrating to deal with, a bad spark or no spark kept my car home nearly the entire summer until I figured out the weak link.
     
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  28. Anderson
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    It's a knock off of an MSD "ready to run". Uses a specific coil and the coil I've got is what came with the distributor...but it was all very cheap so probably not the best quality. I did swap in what I am pretty sure was an MSD blaster 2 coil but didn't have any better luck. I think I've got another of these coils in both my '57 and in my Olds to try. But now it's cold and wet again so....maybe later.
     
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  29. Not saying this is the problem, but I lashed the valves like I always have done when the engine was on the stand, zero lash plus a half turn. Had worked in the past but this time the valves were too tight and it was hanging them all open, wouldn’t run. Checked the firing order over and over again until I figured it out.
     
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  30. AmishMike
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    Great looking rod & great build. Front wheels & brakes look great but you might read up on “scrub radius” & possible affect on driving. Looking forward to first drive report.
     

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