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Hot Rods Steering stabilizer vs pan hard bar...

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by ALLDONE, Jan 31, 2025 at 7:52 AM.

  1. ALLDONE
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    Started noticing steering stabilizers on front ends vs pan hard bars... which works best and is stabilizers just as good??
     
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  2. alchemy
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    Two different purposes.
     
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  3. Rickybop
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    Steering stabilizers are shocks mounted horizontally and connected to the frame and the steering to tame steering harmonics and other undesirable forces.

    A panhard bar is a solid rod attached to the frame and the rear axle to locate the rear axle left and right relative to the chassis.
     
  4. Rickybop
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    ... and the square root is equal to the remaining side. :confused:
     
  5. Rickybop
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    Oh...
    And panhard is one word.
    Named after the French gentleman who invented it.
    Pronounced pan-ard.
     
  6. Rickybop
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    Geometry and language lessons first thing in the morning. :rolleyes:
    I need a raise.
     
  7. ALLDONE
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    LOL... that will get people going...
     
  8. ALLDONE
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    I have 3 rpu... one with a stabilizer, one with a panhard, and one with none, the one with none does weird things on bumpy roads... the other 2 don't
     
  9. Rickybop
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    Wait a minute.
    A panhard bar on the front?
    That would be used to counteract left to right deflection of the suspension from steering forces when using cross steering with transverse leaf suspension.

    So if this is all to do with steering, you might want to take a look at threads with
    "death wobble"
    in the title.

    Might want to take an aspirin first.
     
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  10. 1971BB427
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    My opinion is a steering stabilizer is a bandaid fix for an axle not setup right. Never felt the need to put one on any solid axle install I built and they all have driven great without them.
    A variety of things can cause issues that make people add a stabilizer instead of correcting the issues.
    I've made panhard bars for chassis builds I did with coilovers in front to keep the axles located. That's all a panhard bar does is keep the axle located.
     
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  11. Clydesdale
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    A steering damper/stabiliser can also be used to give some feel/weight to the steering.

    I certainly noticed the difference on a certain OT German made insect car.
     
  12. ROADSTER1927
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    I put a dead perch on on side and it does drive with out any nasty things! In other words Perfectly! original do.jpg
     
  13. DDDenny
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  14. Here you go Rick, this is the frame under my '32 pickup, notice I used a panhard bar, this truck drove like a dream.

    And I agree with the fellow member that said a steering stabilizer is a band aid for improper setup. HRP

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Mr48chev
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    Around this area steering stabalizers are usually associated more with the 4x4 brigade and at one time just about every old Jeep CJ had one. In truth they are just a shock absorber for the steering to keep things under control a bit better especially with rigs with fat tires.
     
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  17. twenty8
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    You do good work, Rick.
    Only thing you missed is that Panhard has a capital "P", seeing as it is the French dudes name.....;):D
     
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  18. gimpyshotrods
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    Only the one wed to doing the wrong thing.
     

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