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Technical Bench Seat Spring Repair

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Oneball, Feb 3, 2025.

  1. Oneball
    Joined: Jul 30, 2023
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    I’m after a bit of advice on how to repair the bench seat from my Merc. It’s always had a bit of a lean to the side so I plucked up the courage to get it out and get the cover off.
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    I’ve found that the steel rod that joins the springs together on the edge of the driver’s side has broken where they go into the frame.
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    What can I do about this? Can I weld the broken pieces back on maybe with a steel plate for added support? Anyone successfully done this?
     
  2. bobss396
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    In any event, the fix will be hidden from view. You could even braze something in place.
     
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  3. alchemy
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    If the steel rod is made of spring steel, any welding will ruin the temper and make a weak spot. But, maybe you’ll be lucky and it won’t crack in your lifetime. If you are going to attempt it, I’d recommend TIG welding as a MIG weld is a hard and brittle weld. Not conducive to bending.
     
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  4. G-son
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    Quick cooling from high temperature (cherry red or hotter) hardens spring steel to a very hard and very fragile state. This means that a weld generally will become very brittle and break easily.
    Reheating to a lower temp softens it and removes the brittleness. Slow(!) cooling from high temp prevents it from getting hard in the first place.

    I'd use a O/A welder, if any.
     
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  5. BJR
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    If you weld it, can you swap it end for end so the repair is on the p***enger side? That way it would get less use than on the drivers side, and maybe last longer.
     
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  6. Oneball
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    They’re not symmetrical and there’s an awful lot of seat to take apart to swap them. Plus that’s the Ms’s side :eek:
     
  7. Oneball
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    Point taken about welding so thinking of getting some spring steel rod and making a u shaped piece that I can clamp to what’s left of the old spring with some rope ferrules.
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  8. 1971BB427
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    I've welded them before with a Mig welder and not had an issue. If there's any concern about losing temper keep a wet rag closeby and just quench it after welding. I have a friend whose wife does upholstery work and they bring broken springs to me often. Occasionally I use some small pieces of steel under the spring to weld to the broken areas to overlap and make it stronger than just **** welding. I'd suggest doing that for your broken pieces and make it less apt to snap again.
     
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  9. Oneball
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    I couldn’t work out a way of putting a new bit of spring steel in that I was happy with so went with welding. It looks like it had broken because the wire going into the seat channel was so long it was sitting at a 45 degree angle instead of flat so I shortened it.
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