Register now to get rid of these ads!

Featured Technical Oil pressure dropped to zero on start up...

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 32blownhemi, Feb 13, 2025.

  1. Uh, right. The stock Chevrolet oil pump is fine for 99% of the applications it’s used on. What about all the modifications people used to do on the Cleveland series? I agree the oil system on Windsors is pretty good, but how could the same company design the Windsor and the drop the ball on the Cleveland?
     
    2OLD2FAST and 427 sleeper like this.
  2. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 16,225

    jimmy six
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I take it you did not clean the bare block or heads. It’s why I assemble all engines I rebuild. I trust the machine work but have always questioned assembly practices. I hope you are sending photos of what you a find to the assembler.
    As for the welded stand, as long as any required oil holes are open and clear, this is not a racing engine, a when you set the complete assembly on the head with no push rods checking it flat with no shafts put in a “bent” I feel it would be fine. If not, all the stands on that side need to be ground flat with a shaft thru them.
     
  3. jimmy six, so as not to derail 32blownhemi's thread I'll answer your comments via P.M.
     
  4. 32blownhemi
    Joined: Aug 7, 2016
    Posts: 66

    32blownhemi

    No, not the fuse... Although I didn't check it until you mentioned it. So looks like nothing is to simple for me Lol... Thank you!
     
    Pist-n-Broke likes this.
  5. oj
    Joined: Jul 27, 2008
    Posts: 6,563

    oj
    Member

    Heres a couple photos of the problem, theres an adapter fitting that goes into thew block but it conflicts with the AllenHead Main Bolt, this is difficult to detect if you are working over the engine on an engine stand.

    601.JPG
    This photo shows the full assembly after machining some clearances on the adapter & pump.
    602.JPG
     
    Blues4U likes this.
  6.  
  7. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 14,028

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    It likely isn’t your issue but I had an similar thing happen a few years ago on my flathead. Always runs great till one day I started it and the oil pressure dropped to zero. Shocked, I jumped out of the car while still running and checked the direct fit gauge on the engine, no pressure. After shutting her down and changing my pants I pulled the dipstick and it was maybe a half quart low. No biggy.

    I put it on the lift and drained the pan in preparation to drop it and diagnose the issue but before removing the pan @Pist-n-Broke suggested sticking an inspection cam in through
    The drain hole. Much to my dismay the moron that assembled the engine (moi) failed to check the length of the dipstick against the picked up on the pump. My aftermarket dipstick was too long. It read full(ish) when the engine was very low on oil. I fixed the dipstick and haven’t had another issue. I hope yours is as easy to fix.
     
  8. 32blownhemi
    Joined: Aug 7, 2016
    Posts: 66

    32blownhemi

    Update: Hooked up a mechanical oil pressure gauge, pulled the coil wire & the spark plugs. Turned it over twice for 3-4 seconds. No oil pressure at all showing on the gauge. Should I have primed the gauges oil line with oil? And there was oil on the spark plugs. Two of them just drenched it oil... Thank you! Bill
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2025 at 12:32 AM
    Sharpone likes this.
  9. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 6,435

    RodStRace
    Member

    You aren't going to like this, but that probably should come out of the car to be checked over fully.
    MAYBE you can pull the dist. and spin the pump drive, but you mentioned tight clearance.
    The pump is in the pan, so if you can drop the pan, pickup and pump, you can check it off the car.
    But at this point, you want to check more. If this was a 200 dollar get 'er goin' motor, you could try spinning the pump and thick additives, but not what you've got.
     
  10. 32blownhemi
    Joined: Aug 7, 2016
    Posts: 66

    32blownhemi

    Thank you RodStRace! I was thinking it was probably more than I can take on. Not only knowledge but I have to move my '32 out of it's current location so nowhere to work on it at. Thanks! Bill
     
    Sharpone and RodStRace like this.
  11. TA DAD
    Joined: Mar 2, 2014
    Posts: 1,479

    TA DAD
    Member
    from NC

    I don't know what type of oil pump drive those motors have but small block Chryslers were bad for shearing the tip off the drive, just a thought.
     
    Sharpone likes this.
  12. Dang, I hate it when that happens. This is going to hurt your Wallet. Sounds like it's over your qualifications, (no disrespect) Maybe go back to your builder, not that it's his fault but it did run pretty good for some time. Just remember, being Bad Ass and having Fun costs money. Don't let that stop you now.
     
    Sharpone, RodStRace and Blues4U like this.
  13. lippy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2006
    Posts: 6,853

    lippy
    Member
    from Ks

    Is big Al still with us? Lippy
     
  14. wheeltramp brian
    Joined: Jun 11, 2010
    Posts: 3,027

    wheeltramp brian
    Member

    Where are you located maybe someone can help. You should put your location in your name
     
    warbird1, RodStRace and Sharpone like this.
  15. Oil pressure guage with a copper line with oil in it is the way to go, electric gagues don't get the job done.
     
  16. Sounds like you need to have the motor pulled to determine what is wrong with it. That sucks, but you can't risk damage to the motor and one should probably check all the bearings while they're at it.
     
    RodStRace likes this.

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.