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Discussion in 'Traditional Customs' started by Ratchet57, Feb 15, 2025.

  1. Lmao yes I have gotten this far without a manual lol a lot of trial and error. I guess I'll figure it out if nobody answers lol
     
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  2. So, I don't understand why the fuel pump stand is hitting the firewall.

    Is the rubber transmission tailshaft mount so compressed that the back of the trans, and thus the engine, is sagging toward the rear?
     
  3. I'm not 100% sure yet I have not been under yet I was working my way from front to back I got the front back together today a few more things to button up under the hood then into the cab and underneath
     
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  4. 421-6Speed
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    Nothing wrong with mechanical. I removed electric and went back to mechanical on my 39.
     
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  5. I agree I just haven't figured out yet why my mechanical pump hits the firewall wall that's honestly the main reason why I was going electric... A lot was done to this car before I got it and a lot was not done quite right. I got the car, the motor and trans on a dolly and just boxes and boxes of parts. I'm putting together the biggest jigsaw I've ever had lmao. I'm doing it without a manual and just kind of winging it, but thank you for the reply and the input I do appreciate the knowledge that has been shared since I've joined this group....
     
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  6. BJR
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    Is it possible you have the wrong water pumps on the engine, positioning it higher in the front, causing your clearance problem?
     
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  7. I'm afraid I don't understand the question The problem is not with my water pump it is with my fuel pump
     
  8. patsurf
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    think of what he said about tipping top of engine back...
     
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  9. BJR
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    The water pumps are the front motor mounts. Ford and Mercury had many different water pumps for all the different models. Truck pumps are a different height than car pumps, and some car pumps are different for different years.
     
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  10. Wow I'm a dumb ass the water pumps are the motor mounts Jesus I'm going back to bed or something..
     
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  11. I swear I knew that but I apparently had rectal cranial inversion...
     
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  12. kls50
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    Two horns, one on each side of the front panel between the radiator and the inner fenders. Last picture is the back of the panel that faces the engine and the horns mount on the front side of the panels.
     

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  13. Man thank you so much I had overlooked that spot 100 times I would never have figured that out... Thank you for the explanation and the pictures they help a lot ...
     
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  14. kls50
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    Glad I could help. Too bad we don't live a little closer.
     
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  15. Andy
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    The bushing the fuel pump push rod rides thru does not have a close fit with the push rod. The only reason for the bushing is to let the oil get from the back of the block forward. The bushing is right in the middle of the main oil line. It seals it and allows the oil pass on either side of it. The later engines like yours had a small hole to squirt some oil on the push rod. The earlier engine bushings had no holes. There is no pressure pushing oil out of the bushing hole. The top and bottoms of the bushing see no pressure. At the top they are open to the bottom of the intake manifold and the bottom they are open to the bottom of the block. In fact the rear cam bearing is not pressure lubricated. It just gets splash oil from the oil pump drive. Do not mess up doing anything to the bushing. It is fine.
    I like an electric pump for priming.
    I ran only an electric pump for years. They left me stranded three times. I had to change them on the side of the road. Not fun. I went back to the stock pump.
     
  16. theHIGHLANDER
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    I don't know 100% for sure and won't be offended to be corrected here. Also my car is 39, but, my engine mount "biscuits" are thicker at the trans than they are at the front/pumps. Maybe some 8BA guys can chime in but it would be nice for you if that's all it was. The little things are easy to miss and again I'm less hip to your style than mine. AND I got a ways to go to really speak intelligently about mine...o_O
     
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  17. Andy
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    Maybe the transmission mount biscuits failed and let the engine tilt back??
     
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  18. I am going to check all that once I get it in the air right now I'm just trying to get it all back together so I can see what's missing and what's needs fixed or replaced
     
  19. That would be great if it's something that simple
     
  20. I'm probably going to mount it in the trunk or someplace easy to get to
     
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    I did get it cleaned up today
     
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  22. So today's question is the previous owner redid the floor and put in a huge tunnel for the driveshaft. I'm trying to find a seat for the front. The rear seat is still in the car and with minor alterations it will work it just needs recovered. Now that said I want to find a bench seat that I can modify to fit, any suggestions? I will attach a picture of the floor and tunnel. 20250306_103759.jpg
     
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  23. caprockfabshop
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    Can you share a pic of the fuel pump stand and pump? Seems like the 1949-50 style pump has no way of hitting the firewall in it's original orientation. 1949-ford-custom-woody-wagon.jpeg Screenshot 2025-03-11 221902.png
     
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  24. I will have to get one tomorrow, but man that is a beautiful motor... Mine won't ever look that good lol
     
  25. dan c
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    two horns, one on each side of the radiator. you'll see rectangular holes, about 1"X2-1/2". an angle bracket goes in each hole and a horn mounts on it.
     
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  26. Thank you so much for the information... We got that sorted out lmao now on the the next problem so much fun getting a car in 14 boxes you learn a lot about it
     
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  27. dan c
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    does the bushing have lube holes in it? then you'll need to plug it--mebbe use a fuel pump pushrod. my car had a solid bushing and didn't need to be blocked.
     
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  28. Ok new question of the day... What has anyone done about the coolant bypass valve leaking is there a valve that can be used or does it just get deleted
     

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