I have a 1947 Mercury with a stuck flathead that has been setting since 63 . I have a running 292 in a 63 F600 . What would it take to do the swap ?
If you are going to run the stock transmission the engine to transmission connection has to be figured out. Some searching says something like this speed Gems SG 60 is needed https://www.ebay.com/itm/166904221344?gQT=2 Then front mounts and exhaust clearance. Plus a nice pair of mufflers to get that great Y block motorboat sound out the back.
Literally everything, from motor mounts to transmission bellhousing to starter to exhaust, and you would still have to plug one each of the radiator inlet / outlets. You may also run into problems with the oil pan as the F600 pan may be shaped quite a bit differently than the Merc flathead pan. It can be done, basic hot rodding rules apply, but it is far from a bolt in and go swap.
The F600 probably has the larger capacity deeper rear sump pan only used on heavy trucks. But the bird, passenger car, or 5 qt truck pans will fit-just make sure the oil pickup tube is with it. The bird is a shallow front rear sump (and pricey), the truck a rear sump with a deeper front, and the passenger car a front sump. if you’ve got the rams horn exhaust, they will not clear most side motor mounts. But they’re a good efficient cast manifold. Passenger cars and birds used the same right side manifold for dual exhaust, but the bird driver side gives a little more clearance. Again, when it says “fits Thunderbird” the price goes up, but they’re reproducing them. I’m not sure about a 600, but you might have a governor or some other odd arrangement on the carb, but that’s easily dealt with. But it’s been done before, and a great choice for an earlier ford.
Looking at the adapter and noticing Olcars comment. The truck used a different bellhousing than the car. Bigger, mounting ears for the rear mounts, and deeper. Keep that in mind looking at engine mounting and adapters. You can run the front mount with a transmission mount and use the side rod steady rest like the bird’s did, using a car bell. One more oddity to consider.
The f600 pan I have is rear sump and looks similar in depth to a regular truck pan The adapter shown would hook it up the the 47 trans. The gov is a spacer under the carb and easily removed. Most truck ones I find are the goofy front crossover manifolds. the ones I’ve messed with were basically 1/2 ton engines with governors I recently set one in a 51 Merc to check fit vs a sbc. The blocks are similar in length. The Y timing cover and pan set up is longer. The 283 fell in the car like it was made for it. just saying
I installed a 292 into my ‘35 pickup project. Whole lotta work for a novice like me. Taking me a long time. Some quick points: Made motor mounts engine a bit off center towards passenger side. Totally removed existing chassis x center piece and fabbed up a new transmission mount lower and upper cover to emulate what was removed. I cut the firewall such that the distributor could clear it. Thankfully, I had a section from another firewall to graft in. I’m using a F100/150 3 + 1 tranny. As I said, a lot of work and time spent just looking at it to figure out how to get it done. To make things a bit easier I’m using ram horn exhausts from a ford COE truck of similar vintage. Iirc, you will want a truck oil pan.
I’m pretty sure I had a set of ram horns that I was told came off a pickup. Extra cost? But I’ve been told a lot of things. Either way, Ted Eaton ran them in his exhaust dyno test, they’re a decent set of manifolds. And look good on AVater’s ride. Mummert used to list reproductions, maybe still does.
You still got the 57 fairlane? Still got the Yblock in it? If so, get out the tape measure. If you figure out what will fit, it’s mainly a manner of cutting and welding. Car has the front sump pan. Truck has the rear, most of what you need to figure it out is there. Parts are something else, but for a driver used y block parts are usually around and not that expensive. Which transmissions in the Merc? Got an overdrive?
Probably will have governed distributor on the truck, so a 57 up distributor from a light truck or car should be on list of things to look for the 292, also a 4 barrel intake and 550-600 cfm carb
My rams horn manifolds were found on a f600 coe Looked at a lot of grain trucks and busses which could possibly have them, nope
A quick note re ram horns: They are not all created equal there are 2 types. One for the 292 engine and another for the Lincoln style bigger engines that were used to power bigger trucks. The 292 style has all the head mounting holes in a row while the other has the holes diagonally arranged.
From an old HAMB ad. '56 F100 front mount. Should open up a lot of room on the sides. If you decide to go this route, I've got one I'll give you.
A buddy of mine had a '47 Ford with a 390 and 4-speed installed 50 years ago. If an FE will fit, so will a Y-block...
I’ve found a guy with a good running flathead. Maybe he and I can do some trading. The 47 Mercury engine is the same as a Ford that year Thank you everyone for suggestions and information
I can't pull up a link for this, but here's some pretty good answers from The Ford Truck Enthusiast describing the differences between timing covers and mounts with some really good pictures.
The Jalopy Journal
