Quick update, got the metal for boxing the rails and I’m trying to schedule a morning to make the new motor mounts in metal. My good friend Jimmy who’s shop we’ve seen a lot through this thread. In parts picking and shop photos to drool over in equal amounts, has died. It’s set us all aback, and honestly just in shock. Messing with hotrods has always been a go to coping mechanism and right now that just makes me think of him so, I don’t know. I guess I’ll either make a lot of progress or I won’t go out there at all. Not really sure right now but whatever happens I’ll keep ya posted.
Whenever I'm down I go for a walk, or a series of walks, usually at sunset or just after dark, and just let my mind think about nothing. Usually there's some sort of wild animal to see or someone trying to run me off the road, so whatever was keeping me down takes a back seat for a bit. I'm sorry you lost your friend. Hang in there.
Sorry to hear about Jimmy. Never easy, but I'm sure he would want you to keep chipping away. Prayers have been with all you guys with such a loss.
https://rumsey-yost.com/2025/03/jimmy-lee-flowers/ Looks like the service is Sunday. I’ve been going out and picking at the car a bit, nothing worth an update but soon.
Tim, Sorry you lost a friend. Good ones are hard to come by. Remember him but make new ones or you'll run out of them. I have lost several in the last few years. The older you get the more it happens. Hang in and make him a part of what you do.
Tim, take some time to just sort out your thoughts and recall the good times with your friend. Our relationships have meaning. When we lose someone, it is time to add new friends. The older we get, the more we need to find those new friends.
Took the long way around and got the old frame mounts off and this morning a friend made my mock up mounts out of metal. Got home and mocked one up, drivers side needs some caked in oil/clay cleaned off the block and then I can get that one mocked up as well. I think I need to tweak the frame mounts or consider my options for mounting them some more. That’ll be the next step after I clean the rails up for welding etc.
Did a little trimming and got them both fitting great. There’s a little casting , and a slight radius that the mock up pieces didn’t seem to care about that metal does. Got it sorted, both sides bolted on with the frame sides clamped on. Passenger side is pretty much there. Just needs the frame cleaned then tack it all on. Drivers side the steering box and steering box mount are VERY close so I’m gonna have to fiddle around with that a little more. But feels like there is room to get in there with the mig and make them hold. then once they are good I move on to the trans mount!
I don't know what rubber mount biscuits you are using but Stude V8s were well known for pulling the left mount apart on torque. It was common to use a short chain restrictor to limit the movement on that side. Looks cool too!
@Six Ball these are what Pete And Jakes carries. I’m more concerned about them squishing down when I sit that big motor on them than anything
I always use Drake's, they have a metal band around them and I have never had to replace one for that reason.
Well this morning I cleaned up a little more and got the passenger side motor mount bolted to the engine with new hardware that’s the right length to fit after taking a flap disc to the spots that got trimmed last time I messed with this. put a normal - read not a nylock- nut on and everything landed perfectly. that photo has no clamps and just snugged the nut to keep it all together. Frame side is up against the inside flange and pushed all the way to the frame web. The drivers side wasn’t so easy. I removed the interfering steering box bracket bolt and it’s very tight but I don’t think anything needs cut. But when trying to bolt the halves together there was some alignment issues. The hole in the motor half was nearly a 1/4 inch or more further from the frame than the passenger side. after measuring everything side to side for twenty minutes I found everything very even and level. I was stumped until I decided to stick a level on the bottom of the engine mounts and found the drivers side was off 3 to 5 deg! There’s a little wiggle room when bolting these on I losened all the bolts up and pushed and got 2 degrees closer. I think I might need to file a hole just a hair or maybe find a dance putting it on and it’ll be level. The mounts are the same side to side but the amount of “off” that would create this amount of off could be just a teeny bit here and there that you’d never be able to eye ball. either way with the mount leveled out it should close my 1/4 gap and I’ll get the frame side mocked up. then it’ll get some strong tacks and I’ll move on to the trans mount
I think these are urethane: https://www.swapshopracing.com/cont...yurethane_Replacment_Bushings_(Set_of_2).html If not I think energy suspension makes something.
Roadster supply sells that style too: Universal Flathead Style Donut/Biscuit Engine Mount Cushion Kit Looks like there's only about a 75lb difference between a SBC and the Stude, and these are the mounts they have in their kits for SBC and BBC. I wouldn't worry about the Stude crushing it and it bolts through so it won't be pulling it apart either.
I just clued in that your frame isn't boxed. Out of curiosity, is there a reason you're going unboxed?
Guys I’ll have to take a photo of what flimsy trash the stock Stude mounts are lol. A big dog could chew one apart. After deciding to add the Stude it is getting boxed. Just doing it after it comes back apart. I actually have the plate for the project laying next to my tool box.
That is why the stock mounts pulled apart. They didn't have a through bolt like the Ford mounts. Top & bottom bolts are part of a rubber sandwich.
Yeah I’ve got one torn in half on my bench I’ll take photos when I get a chance. Even the metal is pretty thin
I googled it, they look pretty feeble. I don't see why the stude would crush the rubber, and it can't tear it because it's bolted through. You'll be good.
That’s the rub with the stock ones they aren’t bolted through. Check out how shallow that shank went into the rubber! And that metal is maybe an 1/8 thick even with all the oil and crap caked on it. I’m really surprised I’ve never heard of these pretzeling up. Probably because they aren’t very long so you can’t get to much leverage on them.
Oil leakage is why the rubber mounts fail, they get soaked and soft. I've never had one totally fail in over 50 years of Stude ownership but keeping them dry is a real challenge cause the felt oil seal on the crank on the timing cover will leak and then oil blows back all over both sides of the engine.
Ok pulled the top bolts and shoved it around and got to zero. I was thinking I might have to file the top holes just a hair but looking closer I think where I nipped the top corners off might need a hair more and it’ll swing right where I want it. The other side fits perfect and side by side they have the same side profile so I’m thinking the trimmed edge might not be totaly square and just needs a little dap of a flap wheel. It’s cloooose. frame side is looking like it’ll fit perfect and has room as is to clear. Once I get the motor side dialed I’ll mock it back up and mark the hole that needs drilled for the steering box mount and drill and tap that
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