Okay, whose got a 12 second street car?

My coupe went 12.80 at 101 or 102 at the Day of the Drags a couple of years ago. I used to drive it alot but not so much lately, it has never overheated or let me down. My engine is a 331 extended bellhousing hemi, that has been bored an .125 over, wich makes it a 354. The pistons are Jahns pop-ups probably 11:1 to 11.5 to 1 compression. The cam is a solid lifter secret grind, 354 heads and 6x2's. I am only running on the outside 4, but I am going to try it on all 6. When I ran at the day of the drags I hardly worked on the car at all, the chassis really needs to be dialed in. I think with the chassis not wasting so much energy, and the engine tuned it could probably go low 12's. I was actually really surprised that it went into the 12's without blowing up!!!
Jimmy White
P.s. It has a 4 speed and a 55 chevy rear end with a 3.55 posi. Before the posi I blew up six of those third members, and broke two axles. I highly recommend a strong rear end.

 

My best time is 12.65 @ 106. 2700 lb. A coupe, 350/ 700r, 9.8.1 comp. .525 lift roller cam, 750 Demon, Cold A/C. 3:89 gears w/ locker. Street tires. Coil over/ladder bar susp. With a set of slicks high 11.'s should be no problem.

Later, Mark

 

My Henry J ran a best of 11.80 Buick Nailhead 671 blower 8 3/4 rear with street slicks. Not bad for a old nailhead. Last time out only got 1 run in no tuning just get in line and go 12.00 coasting through the traps.

 

I don't own it any more, but my old '39 Ford pickup ran a 12.99 - once. It did 13.0 - 13.1 plenty of times but only managed one twelve.

It was about 3500lbs, ran a 400 smallblock with Dart 2 heads, too small block-hugger headers and full exhaust, TH400 and a 3.7 trac-lock nine inch on leaf springs with Hoosier quick-times and pump gas. Apart from changing the rear tyres for racing, it was 100% streetable and had been on many trips including a couple over 1000 miles.

Don't have the actual timing slip here at work, but the numbers were: 60 ft 1.952, 440' 6.465 at 73.28, ET 12.99 at 104.40 mph.

 

You got something against slow street cars Buzzard?

 

It’s not really traditional, but my roadster weighs 2100 lbs with me in it, runs 12.80’s @ 106 mph with a 2.0 60 ft time.

302 with a small cam and Iron GT40 Heads
Street Strip C4
8.8 Rear Axle with a 3.55 gear
Ladder bar/coilover rear suspension
29x7-15 Hurst cheater slick

I can drive it anywhere and I have to drive an hour to get to the track.

It cruises all day at Louisville and lot’s of local cruises and always runs 180° with a Flow-Cooler water pump and a 65 Mustang radiator

I always run the cheapest gas I find.

There is a little more in it, but I haven't played with carburetor or modern slicks, and I'm happy with what it is.

Gus

 

Sold the car... 1933 Plymouth Coupe 2300 lbs. 302 DZ, Solid Engle EP25 Grind, Port matched 2.02 heads intake, crane roller rockers, GM pink rods, 10.5:1, Factory stlyle Holley Intake with 650 double pumper. M22 4 speed 9" rear 4:56 Detroit Locker Moser axles with slicks. Three bar rear suspension with coilovers.

Could leave the line at 6500 RPM 1.60 60 ft times and shift at 7500 RPM. Could not get the car to shift into fourth at that kind of RPM, (sychros).
Letting off in third, and nailing it again could cross the line running 12.90's at about 96-98 MPH.

Thought with 1.60 60 Ft times the car should have run 12 teens or twenties??

 

didn't you drive that car all the way from Sierra Vista to MA several years ago? or was that a different car?

 

i've got a 59 morris minor roadster, tube framed, 302 ford police interceptor, big cammed, big carbed, prepped c4, locked 4.11 rear, 1900#. Been told it should run 12's, but I never run better than 14's. I like the parade lap feel, and I get a good view of the spectators in the stands. Pit discussions get lively, as in how I should go faster,quicker etc., but to be honest, I just don't want to be that alert, or committed, for that matter. I just consider the 1/4 as a short cruise, without the hassle of dealing with cops or pedestrians.

 

No thats the same one. Same motor to. I'm sure you remember that it's no slouch. Sure beats a small block chevy.

 

Well I know it's frowned upon on the board, But it's what I grew up building. Before I graduated to real cars. I've built several street VWs that ran 12's or quicker. My favorite is a buddies 1943 Kubelwagen that runs 11.90s with street tires. Driven to the track, then driven home.

 

My all steal 56 Chevy always runs in the 11s with a best of 11.77 with a 355,iron heads,solid cam,muncie,4.10 dana 60 and 8"et streets. Ive been on runs up to 2hrs away.I drive it all the time.o yea 11.5 to 1,it loves cam2 put runs ok on ultra.

 

My little willys pick up has ran as fast as 109 in the 1/8 in second gear smoking the raiders all the way through and a best of 11.007 @ 120 with only a 1.6 60 at mokan leaving at 3500 and shifting at 5500. The engine is a blown and injected 383 ci sbc the truck weighs a little over 2500 with me in it. The little truck has easy 9's in it but has no cage or wheelie bars and yes it is street driven (ever seen a race car sans a cage or even a roll bar)

 

I don't think anything of mine will ever go anywhere near 12's up here w/o a rocket attached to the back end. Lose a few ponies at 7200' above sea level.

 

Ran a 12.82 & 104.29 @ the '05 Kontinental drags. 3 miles of bad dirt road to get to pavement and about 15,000 highway miles has taken its toll on the frontend, developed a death wobble when going over 80 mph and when braking on the track @ '06 Kontinental drags. Gotta rebuild the frontend,get rid of the old front tires..
'27 T roadster, 350 Chev bored 30 over, 1.94 heads from a early 60s 327, Comp 280 cam, performer intake, 650 Holley. TH 350 with shift kit, stock converter, Ford 9" with 4:11 posi ladder bars and coilovers. Cheap street radials on the rear.

 

I just ran my first 12 second run last night 12.98. 103 mph, 65 comet 3060 lbs with my fat ass in the seat, 302 HO 5 speed Paxton blower 4.56 locker and hoosiers. I attached shot my friend took of me starting the run. That shot is the 7th time I've ever ran a car down a drag strip! LOL. rank greenhorn.

Judd

 

Theres a 31 chevy 5 window coupe and a 36 chevy coupe that drive from Santa Fe To albuquerque,in there cars thats like a 90 mile tripe.the 5 window runs mid 11's and the 36 runs 12s.also theres a 65 chevy truck shortbed,that runs low 12's and street drives it localy.

There not my cars,but goes to show that 12's is posible.

 

Congrats Judd. Fun, ain't it!

 

buzzard, what ya got in your coupe?

 

My plymouth will run low 12s all day long in shitty weather. Its a max wedge with pretty much all the factory parts on it with headers. It recently got a hilborn injector, which has had no affect on streetablity, but it feels like its got a ton more power and no bog on the line anymore. Snap those blades open and hang on... Hoping for 11s in the future.

I see Don Dulmage of "old reliable" fame has found the HAMB, Welcome Don. David

 

Not really Hot Rod but 1968 Firebird. 400 cid built for $999 in 1991, heads were done in 1999 for $300 which included springs , valve job and 2 valves. Engine was built stock with small cam and TRW forged heavy pistons. Heads are non ported. Runs all day long in traffic at 175 degs even in 100deg track temps. Stock TH 350 with 3,000 stall and stock 8.5 rear end with 3:73 gears. 3810 lb weight. This is a stock full interiored 1968 Firebird. My 0-60 ft is 1.67 seconds through the exhaust on BFG 275 50 drag radials. My times are 12.60 @ 105.7 but have had a best mph of 107.1 so I guess I could get a better et with launch and shifting changes. On nitrous best times are 11.70s bouncing off the rev limiter @ 114 mph and 6200 rpm. This car is just my fun car and is more of my rat rod pony car. I have now switched to Mickey Thompson ET drag radials 275 60 15s and it hooks so much better and ets should be alot better. Not bad for a 3810 lb weight and low buck engine rebuild. Gotta love Pontiac torque mid 12s at 105 feels real good . Been racing and thrashing my car on the street for the last 8 years and I mean thrashing. Imaging a 400 Pontiac like this in a car 1000 lbs lighter. If 100 lbs is good for .1 seconds. My car could be doing mid 11s and way in the 10s on piss water gas and a 150 shot of juice and still be be a reliable means of transportaion. No detonation even on ARCO gas.

 

I drove my 64 Vette to the Hot Rod Reunion a couple weeks ago (300 mile round trip), so it's a street car. I haven't had it to the track yet(i'll catch shit for this), but i'm confident mid 12's or better. It's better than a guess. I'll give the combo in a second, but with a little more gear, and a "real" rear tire, it could run hi 11's (maybe even mid 11's) if nothing broke in it's complex but weak driveline. But As-Is, mid 12's for sure. The car's fairly light, and Vettes "hook" real hard. Motor's behind the front axle more than Chevelle, Camaro, etc. Driveshaft's about a foot shorter than MOST cars(puts weight of motor closer to rear tires), giving killer weight bias/transfer, and the driver almost sits over the rear wheels. Killer combo. It's a 5'7 rod 406 with slightly lighter than stock aftermarket (Scat/Eagle?) crank and rods. A custom set of near zero deck (.005 i think- it's been a while) 10-1 Ross(?) pistons, Brodix 200 cc cylinder heads ( "cleaned" up a little), Comp solid stick (.525 lift and 250 degree @ .050), an 800 Double pump Holley on a vintage C3BX(this may be the Achilles heal but i wanted a vintage look). I did the short block for a customer a while back, and recently bought it back, is why the 2 question marks. The heads, cam, intake are current. 3.50 gear and a close ratio 4 speed. I plan to put a 3.36 in the ass, and go to a wide ratio 4 speed. Should be a bit better down low, but cruise just a little bit better on the freeway. I think most of you've seen it. If not, i'll post a pic

 

its not my car but I did see a modal A at the ol' car drags at Edgewater race track in Cincy Ohio that looked like a nice driver, paint mix matched and some rust that ran 11.20's and he drove it in.very cool sleeper

 

The Pusher will run 12s, but it is too heavy and traction impaired. Its close to trad if you like '60s Push trucks and parts haulers.

All it took was pulling the 70 Chevelle mill and truck tranny out and bolting a Bean mill and tranny in.

my next driver should break 11s, we are talking daily drivers here, not weekend hot rods, right?

 

Actually, we started talking about old cars with time slips that say 12 something on them. Now we're talking about coulda, shoulda, woulda's, and conjecture on future projects.

 

I got time slips with 12s. I got time slips with 11s when I had the mill in a lighter body. I'm not talking conjecture you drive your heap to MOKAN next year I'll drive mine I'll run your ass into the ground and tow you back to the hotel.

I drive my stuff everyday, I don't own a jellybean car to get to and from. Future projects my bleedin' ass.

 

I've owned many 12 second cars. Actually, I've owned a few that would only run about 10 seconds before they died......oh, wait.....you meant something else....

 

Does it run 12's, or not? I don't really care, but I based my answer on this statement that says it's too heavy and traction impaired.

We can sure run at MOKAN. If I'm not looking for a project at the swap next year, I may drive mine up there. Does that make a big difference to you?

Edit: So I guess it does run 'em, if you have slips. Missed that part in the second post.

 

Well ,I loves me some 55's too but mine can't run 1/4 miles and I haven't had it to a 1/8 yet but with a strong small block, crane 278 cam Edelbrock dual plane and 600 carb with 100 primaries, muncie M-22 and a set of 4:88 it comes out real hard ,spins the shit outta the 60's through 1,2 And 3 and a good long chirp outta 4th if I change my rears it may run 12's but not sure what gear to change it to but I do know it revs too high for any kind of highway driven but it's lots a fun

 

Buzzard,

We're racein' then. I'll hate you in the stageing lanes, and we'll throw one down at the Ramada. Something I only do with friends.

So fellas who else is driveing a fast on to MOKAN? I probably have more than one pass in my old beater, and I know the Buzzard will.