Tried various “permanent” markers over the years. Disappointed with most I’ve tried including the latest which was some Milwaukee ones. What do you use that works and stays on? Challenge is in sub-freezing temps and oils/liquids.
Sharpie pro Edit: Not sure about the freezing temps. We don't get those here.. but they are super stinky wet markers.
I use the paint markers for parts I am storing or going to swap meets. I don’t think anything will work in sub zero temperatures.
Nothing is really "Permanent"...even etching or stamping can be ground off. but like BJR said, try the oil based paint markers (they have acrylic ones also, but they are not as "permanent"). Here's a link to some...ref=sr_1_8.htm.
Nothing is going to work really well sub zero or in oil. Oil would be, as mentioned, a paint marker but they tend to be pretty coarse tipped so depending on what you are marking they aren't great either. Milwaukee are the best regular ones I have found. Last the longest and the tips are way more rugged than Sharpie IMO.
What do they use at auto recyclers? I’ve seen fine tip yellow marks on parts. Those seem to stay on. While soldering the copper coolant pipes on my speedster project, everything I tried came off. Was super frustrating as I needed the marks to align the parts. Ended up just scribing marks.
I can't say I have seen anything at a junkyard I would call fine tipped. You go from saying sub zero and oily to needing them to stay on while soldering. Not exactly the same scenarios. You need a welders pencil if you are soldering.
I use liquid paint in squeeze tubes from the arts and crafts part of walmart. I use yellow to mark parts. It can fade badly but leaves a 'welt' of thick paint that lasts for years
Why are you rubbing it? Make the mark and leave it alone it shouldn't be that hard to avoid handling the marked area. Once the area is lined up the mark has done its job. Sounds like a lot of operator error not material issues.
Uni-Markers, the are enamel paint markers. HRP If that don't work a case pocket knife will probably do the job. HRP
Had to mark in-situ, remove, and then clamp in vice. Lots of handling. Expected the stuff to stay, but it didn’t. Copper pipes were clean /grease free. Used both the Sharpie and Milwakeee markers with the same results. This was in my basement at 70F plus. Not sure why they both rubbed off.
I get permanent markers from Lowe’s. They sell them in like 30 packs for $15 or so. They don’t work for everything but good around the house and shop. paint markers are where it’s at if you want permanent. Craft stores sell them but also auto parts stores usually carry white and yellow
What about Dykem stuff, it's oil based. https://www.itwprobrands.com/category-list-brand/marking/dykem I've used the roller ball one, really permanent after it dries......but no freezing temps here.
A sharpie might work in sub-zero, a paint pen will not. As far as working on oily surfaces, good luck. If you need to align two pipes, a quick straight scribe line is your best bet.
Black and silver Sharpies work for me. Many times I'll use some tape on whatever I'm trying to mark, then mark that.
Sounds like a fool's errand. The problem seems like it has less to do with what you already have available and a lot more to do with how you're utilizing it all I suggest: • tiny mark with a scribe • looking at witness marks and remembering their position • tacking in place and removing in a way you haven't considered • winging it (using the force)
I work on the railways, in all weather’s. We use these. Write on anything. Ice, grease, crap ( they’ve stopped that now!), rust etc. if you want to make a super accurate mark colour the area in with the crayon then draw on the crayon with a pencil or scribe https://markal.com/products/bandreg...9nyTnLfauyhw1FINJJ5vmQ1r8LcbpnE4ZWkpEmPUssz1h
Sharpie makes a lot of different markers. You can find these on amazon Sharpie https://www.sharpie.com › professional-markers › sharp... With permanent ink designed to mark on wet and oily surfaces, Sharpie PRO Permanent Markers are built jobsite-tough.
Paint pens. I gave up on markers as they fade in sunlight, and use paint pens. Lots of colours available and they wipe off with thinners.
Some intetssting stuff I’ll have to check up on. I should have clarified “marker” to incl paint pens. Not up to what the correct terminology is for this kind of stuff. Have had mixed results with these. When working properly, they do leave a permanent mark on almost any surface from what I’ve found, but they either clog, emit liquid sporadically, or it gushes out. Good for some large marking/lettering, but not good for alignment marks. Being mostly lazy, when I do scribe “alignment” marks, it’s freehand (using the “force”) and rarely does the line end up being straight across both pieces, so some guesswork/memory involved. Never really ever thought of using a straight edge to scribe alignment marks. Maybe I should start…lol!
When my paint sticks or welder markers dry up a tiny dab of Brake Cleaner usually gets them going again.
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