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Technical Good Zinc Oil - Rotella T4

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Voh, Apr 27, 2025.

  1. lostone
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    I've known guys that have run it, I've known farmers that run it in all their vehicles, both gas and diesel because it was easier keeping 1 oil type on the farm vs several.

    I was told I couldn't run valvoline 20-50 race oil on the street because it would wash the bearings, too high oil pressure, blow oil filter seals in the winter etc but I ran it for 10 yrs in my 68 firebird as my daily driver. It seen everything from 100° days to 0° days.

    Never blew a filter seal, never washed the bearings and oil pressure was only about 6 pds more at 2000rpm (65 to 66 psi) all on a motor that had less than 12,000 miles on it to start with.

    I believe there are some oils that are better at doing certain things than others but not using them isn't that detrimental to the engine. Especially when some of these cars see less than 2500 miles a year.....

    ....
     
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  2. twenty8
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  3. Dangerous Dan
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    I use a bottle of ZDDTplus. Recommended by Delta Cam's
     
  4. Jack E/NJ
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    from NJ

    What's the best way for positioning a 4 or 5 quart jug of oil in your own bare hands so as to avoid a mess without the aid of a funnel?
     
  5. milwscruffy
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    So glad I run roller cams now.....
     
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  6. MCjim
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    This stuff has the magical ZDDP in it...works for my junk.
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  7. snoc653
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    Rotella threads are like discussing liver and onions as a meal. Some love it, some hate it. A few on either end have actually tried it and can articulate why they feel the way they do. The majority don't really know why they love or hate it, they just heard something somewhere at some time. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. If fixed or used properly, both are good. If you don't pay attention to what you're doing, they both can be pretty bad. And yes, I've tried it and liked it and will try it again.
     
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  8. 57 Fargo
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    This is strictly to make people cry.....I buy the cheapest oil at walmart on put it in all my old cars with flat tappets, no additives, no idea on the zinc content of it. I put miles on my cars.
     
  9. Same here.

    I’ve put a zillion miles on cheap oil in old beaters.

    Don’t even remember using ***embly lube building engines back in the day. Motor oil and a touch of STP sometimes
     
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  10. K13
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    You can believe what ever you want. I will believe the long standing member here who does this everyday for a living and has ZERO ulterior motive to provide us with misleading information (in fact he actually has the exact opposite motivation) over an article that clearly has advertising influences. To each his own.
     
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  11. Lane, I’ve used Walmart brand oil in my 3 year old Silverado with the Turbomax engine. I see nothing wrong with Super Tech oil. If I didn’t get 15w-40 from work for such a good price, I’d use Super Tech oil in everything around here.
     
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  12. 1biggun
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  14. Amsoil says I can as long as I own both dirsel and gas powered stuff
    If it meets specs for both.:)

    A breakdown for Lucas hot rod oil found on the internets. We all know it’s fact then:)

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    looks kinda more like break in oil

    according to the experts this would be worse than diesel oil if these numbers are correct

    I’d like to see a breakdown for some vintage 30 weight.
     
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  15. Yes. Oil is good

    well, maybe not this one
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    if detergents are killing old gas engines the Lucas cl***ic fans should be upset

    you can dig up oils not labeled as “diesel” that have detergent levels similar/higher than Rotella.
     
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  16. gimpyshotrods
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    Wide side horizontal, with the end of the handle that is farthest from the spout slightly elevated, for return air flow.
     
  17. MAD MIKE
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    I get a chuckle of guys using 50 weight racing oil in there 90HP Flatheads because 'ZDDP!'
    Save your money and aggro, M1 FS 0W-40 'european car' oil is available just about anywhere and will most likely cover all your concerns for cheaper.

    What is this, 5th grade?
    Kinda weird to be talking smack about a fella who has been around more engines/gear train/vehicles/drivers than you probably even knew existed.

    Engineers get to be a bit quirky, normal people don't advance our quality of fun.
    A course on statics, alone, will do that to ya.

    One of my best friends has, over the years, gone from Mark Donohue to Jim Cornette, engineers shouldn't directly deal with customers:eek::p:D
     
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  18. theHIGHLANDER
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    Hayseed tobacco spittin logic sez we all run old *** engines. They have ****ty crankcase ventilation, their sloppy low compression innards tend to allow more oil into the combustion process, they're all pretty much glorified farm implements. Ok a little better,more parts too. If our pages were dedicated to modern **** like Coyote Ford and GM LS we would never yack about this. Those ****ers can make power on a thimble of gasoline and our **** needs a full squirt from the oil can! "So what's the point Jocko?" The point is our **** is a sloppy mess that leaves a lot behind. So to get off the business route and back on the freeway the choice for diesel oil can make sense. Somebody said phospho content disqualified the use of diesel oil, yet even in the listings shown the phosphorus is WAY higher in some of those specialty oils than in diesel formulas. And if diesel oil is good for managing soot and other combustion byproducts not found in modern engines, why is it now a bad thing for the sloppy, sooty, stanky, AND compromised engineering of our beloved old ****?

    "Too much detergent!" as if yer gonna see soap suds on the dipstick? Detergents in oils is a generic term for the additive package that helps manage the messy leftovers. Is there better? Sure, maybe. I'd rather run race oil in a fire breathing 12:1 big block Chevy or even a restored CJ FE. Surely in anything vintage HEMI, solid lifter nervous RPM small blocks, etc. Show of hands, who here is running a DOHC 10,000 RPM race engine in their Deuce hiboy? Anyone? Wait, I might see 1 hand way in the back but I think he's an engineer so no worries. He's covered.

    Ok, 1 more show of hands. Did y'all get the point I was trying to make? Humming along at 2500 RPM down the freeway in slightly warmed up flatty, I think the little twit texting in the next lane is a way bigger problem than the microscopic ingredients of the bio sludge we pump from the ground to lube the said glorified farm implement under your right foot. High zoot modern engines need not apply. Yer fine, and it's your turn to bring donuts.
     
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  19. 2OLD2FAST
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    This entire thread falls under the phrase , " much ado about nothing" ...
     
  20. JD Miller
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    I just bought couple 5 gal jugs Valvoline ZR1 20-50 at Wallymart off da shelf

    .:D
     
  21. JD Miller
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    Ask Fryburger..... cept he always pours it all over the valvecover, intake, header, and lets it puddle on the floor

    :eek:
     
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  22. When I was researching Schaefer oil before using it in my car I came across info on multiple oil. Rotella oil used to have high zinc but as a result of stricter diesel engine emissions regulations they dropped the zinc level....a lot. Now it's not much higher than regular white bottle Castrol GTX
     
  23. 1971BB427
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    I can't believe how often this Rotella topic gets brought up again!
     
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  24. theHIGHLANDER
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    I know, right? I think those who bring it up are hungry and confusedo_O
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  25. https://pqia.org/lucas-hot-rod-cl***ic-sae-10w-40-motor-oil/

    Lucas hot rod oil. Designed by scientists for older gasoline engines.

    it’s “worse” than rotella.
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    which scientists are correct?

    any Lucas guys with messed up engines because of it?
     
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  26. Jack E/NJ
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    from NJ

    Uh-oh! I've been using Walmart's finest 0w-20 synthetic in my early '38 21-studder for the past few years. And 10 yrs before that Motorcraft 5w-20 synblend since its refresh. Hasn't seized or knocked yet. Should I be worried?
     
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  27. http://pqiadata.org/Ford_Motorcraft_5W20.html
    Wonder what the oil experts think about that detergent content.
    Walmart oils have been tested by this same place. Look good
     
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  28. 2OLD2FAST
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    from illinois

    Walmart doesn't make oil , find out who supplies Walmart
     
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  29. theHIGHLANDER
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    SuperTech is made by Warren Oil (or Warren Petroleum). They're an independent and the oil does indeed meet govt and warranty standards. It's not like the Brand X slop on the shelf at the convenience store gas station.
     

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