Technical Need help Id a frame

Please help me to figure out what frame this is?

 

bits and pieces of fords. 40 drum on back, frame center x looks like 33-34 as does the front brake drums, or whats left of them.

 

Look like Model A frame rails that have been Z'd front and rear, but not done very well. Mostly junk.

 

I have to disagree with Neal, if it has 32-34 spring perches, axle, spindles, steering box, its not scrap iron. Even the X member, if I'm correct, if 33-34 is worth saving. The rear axle has a 40 drum, but that doesn't mean its a 40 rear. Can't tell from the pic. Million dollar pile?... no, but if its cheap its worth some valuable parts

 

That rear kick-up looks sketchy at best.

 

I'm looking at putting it under a 31 sedan body. As for correcting the z's on the frame it's just redo some welds. I'm just trying to figure out if it will work foe my build. The owner had it sense 36 and now it in the hand of they kids. What a good price?

 

Sketchy and crude is traditional

 

Both front and rear Zs (especially the rear) will need to be redone, and I doubt the 33-34 midsection will be likewise usable as is, so you're looking at stripping the whole thing back down to the basics and re-welding everything with proper geometry and gussets; so I'd recommend only buying as parts if you have a need for them, you'll save money in the long run buying pre-bent or unmolested frame rails.

 

Model A frames are cheap and plentiful. The only thing here of any value is maybe...the axles.

 

That thing is not worth even considering to use, gone way beyond fixing some welds, etc. Maybe a couple hundred dollars worth of parts depending on what's good on the front end. X could maybe saved. Doesn't look like '33-'34 X; but like a '35-'40 by the way the torque tube sits in it and probably '35-'36 due to the holes in the rear legs.

 

Unlike most here I'd add a couple isosceles gussets fore and aft of that thing holding the rear crossmember on both sides and call 'er good ...drop an engine in you're off to the races

 

doe anyone remember using model a frames that were reversed end for end not flipped over. seems i remember one on a t bucket where the tapered ends of the rails were in the front.

 

Looks like it was in a bad fire.. Pass on that mess, easier to build something from a good original ford frame. Model A frames are cheap and sturdy.