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Technical Drag Link Orientation

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by ‘28 RPU, May 4, 2025 at 12:03 PM.

  1. ‘28 RPU
    Joined: Feb 11, 2022
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    ‘28 RPU

    I am in the process of building a ‘28 RPU and have questions about the steering linkage. No doubt thousands of hotrods have been built in the last 75 years with the same suspension that I am using. I am using a 4” drop axle with a reverse eye transverse spring and the drag link seems to be at a ridiculous angle (from the Pitman arm to the steering arm it climbs like Mt. Everest. Am I missing something? I had planned to use a “dropped” steering arm which would have helped a little but it hits the axle so is a no-go. Advice would be welcome and pictures much appreciated.
     
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  2. Dino 64
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    What steering box ?
     
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  3. What he said! Also pitman arm.
     
  4. tomcat11
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    @'28 RPU post some pictures of what you have.
     
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  5. ‘28 RPU
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    ‘28 RPU

    I am using an F100 box but that doesn’t change the steering linkage because the Pitman arm is in the stock location and orientation.
     
  6. ‘28 RPU
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    ‘28 RPU

    I posted the box info immediately after my first post but for some reason it did not show up at that time. I am using what folks call a “shortened” Model A Pitman arm, and what some folks call a ‘33 Pitman arm. The F100 box was adapted to use a square sector shaft specifically to replace the OEM box. The Pitman arm was then shortened to be the length of the V8 Pitman arm Henry realized in 32 that the current box required too much effort to steer (probably the result of the wider tires that were then in use) so they went to this shorter arm. The pitman arm uses a tapered ball with the ball being on the outside (wheel side) of the arm. So, there are many hundreds of cars out there with this exact set up, I didn’t reinvent the wheel, I just copied others.
     
  7. fastcar1953
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    Pictures will get you a lot more help.
     
  8. Jmountainjr
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    It's not unusual for the drag link to run up hill in many side steer setups. The drag link running up hill isn't an issue in itself as long as the pivot of the axle and drag link are in the same arc. If not bump steer is an issue.
     
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  10. Mart
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    Is the front end going in from the top or bottom? If you can get it in from underneath it will help matters. Bending the steering arm so it is as low as possible also will help.

    Some pics would be useful.
     
  11. Mr48chev
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    Do you have a dropped steering arm - or a straight hairpin one.
    These popular style steering arms will raise the front of the drag link up pretty high especially when used with an F-1 box. Flipping it over and putting the rod end in from the bottom will get you a couple of inches as Mart mentioned. getting one that loops down a lot closer to the axle helps lower the front of the drag link too. Screenshot (1350).png entioned.
     
  12. 36and63
    Joined: Mar 21, 2017
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    Steering arms can change the point as noted but modifying/heating bending them for your need is common. See which one offers the closest to your needed position and modify as needed.
     
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    I believe this info was developed by Pete Eastwood and has been published in the Pete and Jakes catalog many times over the years.
     
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  14. Andy
    Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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    You might try to find a thread I posted yesterday.
    Steering Arm
    It shows a dropped steering arm installed.
     
  15. Seems to me that the more flat the angle, the better. However, there are probably hundreds of early rods with the angle you are experiencing.
     

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