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Technical orange peel in featherfil

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  1. 6 in a row
    Joined: Mar 20, 2025
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    6 in a row

    I'm working on my second paint job, so I'm still learning. I've shot the Evercoat Featherfil on both, and it has gone on with orange peel. Shot at 30 PSI with a 2.5mm tip, weather about 65 degrees. no added reducer. Is orange peel expected? It sands out with 320, leaving plenty of build, but if I could avoid this step it would save a lot of time. Thanks for your opinion.
     
  2. K13
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    If you could avoid what step? Sanding?You have to sand it regardless of the surface texture. Or just the 320 step? 2.5 is too big a tip for Feather Fill. Thats why you are getting so much texture. 1.7 -2.2 is what is recommended. Usually something in the middle of the range is best.
     
  3. 49ratfink
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    see if you can get a picture that shows what it looks like
     
  4. Pics?
    But sanding is required anyway.

    the peel can kinda act like guide coat
    320 on first sanding with feather fill?
    Crap, we start out a lot couser than that.
     
  5. Bandit Billy
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    The picture didn't show up on my end, probably my computer. Everyone has a different definition of orange peel. Be nice to see what you have there.
     
  6. Onemansjunk
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    F3CD5183-E6D1-46D3-BB21-CA35B43192EA.jpeg Is this the stuff we’re talking about?
     
  7. 6 in a row
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    6 in a row

  8. 6 in a row
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    6 in a row

    Picture doesn't show too much. As Anthony suggested it does make a preliminary guide coat. I'm using 320 grit to reduce sanding scratches that have to be removed later.
     
  9. We sand primer like that with 150 on the first round usually. I have used 80 to open up polyester primer before.
     
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  10. crf500
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    You have to remember poly primer is filler primer. Poly primer will never flow like paint. Its primer , and made to fill and level surfaces for paint. 99 percent of the time you will start with 80 or 100 grit and work your way up with poly.
    at minimum 150 /180. Its to thick and will leave to much mill build, on top of that 320 will not cut it flat enough to ever get the panel to look straight. lt will look wavy or like have a washboard look to it.
    There are other primer out there that are thinner and will do the job you are wanting. You just need to do some research if you are in need of smooth primer finish.
    Your air flow in the space you are shooting in can have a lot to do with the the problem your having. If your fan isn't big enough or have enough cfm to get the overspray out . The extra product in the air will simply linger in the air and then settle on the panel after your all done spraying. As a newby you might not realize what's going on. You might need to let your primer set a little longer and tack rag it between coats and see if it makes a difference.
     
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  11. Utahvette
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    I believe it says on the can you can reduce it 10% with acetone. It makes a big difference.
     
  12. alchemy
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    That’s not orange peel. You wanna see orange peel, check out the Rocky coupe. (Hi Rocky! ;))
     
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  13. tb33anda3rd
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    you can knock it down with a DA 180 for speed , then guide coat and block it to get it straight.
     
  14. JimSibley
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    Yes, knock it down. I use 150 to do this. If I find dings, this is the time to fix them, then re guide coat and go at it with 220. After I am convinced it is straight, I re prime with a smoother fill primer and sand it out in 400, then seal and paint.
     
  15. 6 in a row
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    6 in a row

    Thanks for your suggestions, I'm probably 80% done knocking down the peel. I will continue the blocking with 400, seems like all the low spots are filled.
     
  16. theHIGHLANDER
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    Feather fill is almost self abuse, isn't it? I like Slik Sand and also really like Shopline poly prime. Levels easy, manageable film build, sound base. I'm with them, 320 isn't it. 150/180 levels out better, easier to manage long strokes for quality.
     
  17. overspray
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  18. Should be irrelevant.
     

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