Register now to get rid of these ads!

I NEED BETTER TAIL LIGHTS

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Bandit Billy, May 12, 2025.

  1. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I used the ring from the blue dots to add an accent to the lenses. They are plastic and though the shape is awesome they looked a little cheap to me. I also sprayed the inside of the lenses with transparent red taillight paint by VHT.
    IMG_7333.jpeg Now they have an appearance more to my liking and look even more “Ford” like.
    it is hard to take good pictures with the lights on but you cannot make out the LEDs thanks to the beveled in the lenses.
    IMG_7335.jpeg IMG_7334.jpeg
    I wanted bright, I got that and then some.
    Tradition may say 6volt bulb but then again tradition would also be one brake light and arm signals. I’m good with this.
     
    Okie Pete, porkshop, GordonC and 6 others like this.
  2. TrailerTrashToo
    Joined: Jun 20, 2018
    Posts: 1,458

    TrailerTrashToo
    Member

    HORN BROKEN, WATCH FOR FINGER
     
    porkshop and Bentrodder like this.
  3. pprather
    Joined: Jan 10, 2007
    Posts: 8,819

    pprather
    Member

    For third brake light I removed the chrome license light and used a reproduction vintage motorcycle taillight.
    1698209869529_0513191551_HDR.jpg
     
  4. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    That is a good look.
     
    porkshop, dogwalkin and pprather like this.
  5. deathrowdave
    Joined: May 27, 2014
    Posts: 5,007

    deathrowdave
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from NKy

    porkshop, Bentrodder and Bandit Billy like this.
  6. deathrowdave
    Joined: May 27, 2014
    Posts: 5,007

    deathrowdave
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from NKy

    Any one ever determine if Mr Billy’s LED suggestion will work in 50 Pontiac lights ? Thanks and great work on trying to keep the Hot Rods as safe as possible
     
    porkshop and dogwalkin like this.
  7. You can darken up the lense by painting them with the dye that is used for "stained glass" artwork. The dye is thin, lays out flat, and you can vary the darkness by how many coats you apply. It will 'tone down' the chintzy platinic look. Lasts a long time.... my '46 Chev plastic lense have held up great for 20+ years.
     
    porkshop and Bandit Billy like this.
  8. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    You get it. That pinkish, plastic look is nasty. Dark red is the look of glass lenses. Good tip
     
    porkshop likes this.
  9. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
    Posts: 5,620

    gene-koning
    Member

    Just keep in mind that the average SUV driver on the road is used to that chintzy, platinic, pinkish, plastic look.
    Their minds may not comprehend what the bright, dark red, look of real glass means until the hit you. When we drive among them, our rides almost needs to fit into what they are used to.

    I had a moron almost hit the back end of my truck that has big ugly LED lights on it, mounted above the bumper, because, according to him "You don't have a 3rd brake light!" He told me he only watches for the 3rd brake light! I doubt my well expressed words of wisdom is going to make much difference with him, but I sure felt better.
     
    Ned Ludd and Bandit Billy like this.
  10. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Good point. Tragic...but good point.
     
  11. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 19,946

    Tim
    Member
    from KCMO

    Do they put off much heat?
     
    Bandit Billy likes this.
  12. No.... basically none. They produce light through some kind of sorcery but NOT by heating up an element to glowing red like a filament bulb does.
     
    Bandit Billy and Tim like this.
  13. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
    Posts: 5,620

    gene-koning
    Member

    LEDS don't put off any heat, nor do they have much resistance. Often they need special flashers for the turn signal flasher to function, and they don't melt snow off of themselves in the winter (just in case that happens where you drive).
     
    Bandit Billy likes this.
  14. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    No heat at all. They have such little resistance that they have trouble with some flasher units. Always purchase LEDs that are pre-loaded with resistors or look for CANBUS software in the description. They will work with your electrical system. Plug n play and so much brighter!
     
    Okie Pete, pprather and Tim like this.
  15. dirt car
    Joined: Jun 26, 2010
    Posts: 1,575

    dirt car
    Member
    from nebraska

    I bought a pair of the Bob Drake advertised led bulbs when they were first offered but they were too large a diameter for my 32 taillights without some mods, also read some may require a compatible flasher, is that still the case with the H.D. Amazon offering ?
     
    Bandit Billy likes this.
  16. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    In the early days of LED bulbs this was an issue, the resistance is sooo low that the flasher thinks there is a bulb out so it stops flashing. People added resistors to trick the flashers or changed flasher units as you described. Today's bulbs are smaller, brighter and have built in resistance. There is a day coming that you won't buy 1157's at the auto parts store. If you think I'm smoking the good stuff, you aren't wrong but also consider that 2 years ago you could still buy conventional bulbs for your house then visit your local ACE hardware store.
     
  17. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
    Posts: 5,620

    gene-koning
    Member

    All the turn signal lights on my 49 Dodge truck are LED, and all were purchased in about 2021. I had to buy a flasher unit designed for LED lights (I think it was under $15). The original flasher would flash once or twice and stop.
    The LED flasher works great, and is louder then the original non-LED flasher was, which is a plus in my book (I know when the turn signal didn't turn off).
     
    Bandit Billy and TrailerTrashToo like this.
  18. GordonC
    Joined: Mar 6, 2006
    Posts: 3,468

    GordonC
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Billy I have LEDs in the 48 Chevy lights on my roadster. I was worried about not being seen as well. Because my trunk lid is louvered I ran 2 LED strips inside the trunk lid in line with a row of louvers on each side. Now with everything hooked up my tail lights pulse and the LED strips pulse as well. If you run into the ass end of me now you have to be frigging blind! You can barely see them in the first pic. :D
    i-K2dRtZ9-X3.jpg

    20250525_120837.jpg
     
  19. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 19,946

    Tim
    Member
    from KCMO

    Oh I like that!
     
    CDLooper likes this.
  20. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Clever idea!
     
    CDLooper and GordonC like this.
  21. Gahrajmahal
    Joined: Oct 14, 2008
    Posts: 583

    Gahrajmahal
    Member

    Thanks Bandit Billy for this thread! This is a good summer 2025 project for both of our convertibles, especially the Mrs. 1970 MGB. That car is so small and low to the ground it is comical when I take it out shopping and park in the lot. I have taken to running the headlamps during the day to help seeing it from the front.

    Keep adding links to your light setups as that makes it easier to find something to fit everyone’s different cars. I do like the flashing brake lights now used on Amazon semi trailers. They don’t have any qualms about reducing accidents into the back of those big things.
     
    Bandit Billy and loudbang like this.
  22. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    To that end I will post the 3rd brake light I added to my wife's PU I built for her. It is packing a super bright bulb behind its lens. If you miss that one, you and Mr. Magoo have a lot in common. When I'm driving the truck, I like watching the cars behind me light up red when I hit the brake pedal.
    upload_2025-5-27_14-42-22.png
    I can't take credit for it, I stole the idea from @Hotrodmyk
     
    porkshop, Tim, Ned Ludd and 4 others like this.
  23. Hotrodmyk
    Joined: Jan 7, 2011
    Posts: 2,336

    Hotrodmyk
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    ^^^Yeah buddy!
     
    porkshop and Bandit Billy like this.
  24. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    You guys still grab a burger once in a while at the Bigfoot?
     
    porkshop and Hotrodmyk like this.
  25. Tim
    Joined: Mar 2, 2001
    Posts: 19,946

    Tim
    Member
    from KCMO

    I’m curious if you can run led and normal bulbs on the same chain, like if your tail lights are led and the third brake light is incandescent is there an issue daisy chaining them together?

    And this is going to sound pretty simple brained but I’m not 100% so I’ll just ask. If you have led tails and incandescent front turn singles you would just need a led flasher for the back and a standard for the front. Am I thinking about that correctly?
     
    porkshop and Bandit Billy like this.
  26. RodStRace
    Joined: Dec 7, 2007
    Posts: 8,437

    RodStRace
    Member

    @Tim If you get the LEDs with resistors, they should work fine in the old school system, so should work fine mix n match.
    I'd try hard to go that way rather than rewire with separate circuits and flashers!

    I will mention I've followed behind more than a few big trucks that have a mix of LED and incandescent.
    It's funny to see the LEDs come on, pause for warm up, then the incandescents. It's pretty obvious. It will make you consider going all LED.
     
    Tim, porkshop and Bandit Billy like this.
  27. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Yeah, what he said ^^^. If you make it a habit of buying LEDs that are pre-loaded with resistors (and the majority of them are out there other than the silly cheap ones), you won't have an issue mixing and matching. I get more concerned with color, brightness and appearance. I mean I want to be seen but I don't like the look that many LEDs give off. For example this 40 ford tail light. Dude!
    [​IMG]
    That is in yer face nasty. It is bright but not cool. I used super brights behind the taillight lenses on the 41 PU and they look correct, light up the blue dot and can be seen.
     
    Tim and RodStRace like this.
  28. Hotrodmyk
    Joined: Jan 7, 2011
    Posts: 2,336

    Hotrodmyk
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Every Tuesday!
     
    porkshop and Bandit Billy like this.
  29. Acres
    Joined: Dec 19, 2021
    Posts: 1,498

    Acres
    Member
    from Sweden

    I had same problem, in need of better taillights, bought these from Amazon, for me they work perfect, got a glass bulb protecting from dirt and moist.
    For me Led is a big no no if you could se it is Led, those Led dots doesnt belong on any classic, but when I mounted these its almost impossible to tell its Led
    61zF1+gIljL._AC_SX679_.jpg
     
    Ned Ludd, Tim, SS327 and 1 other person like this.
  30. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 15,653

    Bandit Billy
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Like noon or 1:00? Give me a time and I'll cruise out that way and burger up.
     
    porkshop likes this.

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.