Featured Technical ***June 2025 Banger Meet Thread - A Change in the Weather***

Link to previous month: May 2025 Banger Meet

Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there may be more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts
https://eraspeed.com/

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Weather has been shitty so I haven't had the RPU out this year but maybe today is the day.
Warren

 

we all are getting slower to check in it appears

 

Still here, used the roadster today after a week of off on rain.

 

Here! Took the T speedster out to the swap meet yesterday. Only raining sunshine up here… but have heard reports of 12” of rain in some parts down under. Aussies better keep yur pants rolled up just incase! Stay safe fellas!

 

Kevin, we're in Melbourne.

Rural Victoria is suffering from a drought.

It really hasn't rained here for some time. I had the coupe out on Sunday to run a few errands. Loaded it up after a trip to the hardware store. And yes, stuff was poking out under the deck lid.

Hope to get some hot rod time in the next few weeks to do some jobs on it.

If only I could remove the top hinge pin!! Tried 2 different hinge pin removers - next will be drilling it out, and we all know how dangerous that is on a painted car

 

Had the old truck out for a drive with a few others in the Lincoln forest/ Sacramento mountains New Mexico did about 100 miles

 

Checking in! Planning on throwing some simple bolt ons, on the stock engine in the sedan while I re-gasket my hopped up engine.

How do the Belond exhaust headers perform?

 

Here's a few photos of a trip I took through Utah with the hooligans in hot rods on the highways gang.. Price Utah to Bryce Canyon, Kodachrome Basin, Escalante, Capitol Reef and Goblin Valley.. 550 or so miles in three days. Epic trip in an open car.. I even passed a flathead v8 going up a mountain pass! Winfield head, insert A block, B type distributor, burns intake with dual 81's and yapp headers, v8 trans and a 101 quickchange rear end, 4:11 gears

 

to many carbs

 

Dreaming of being a banger.

 

@PINEAPPLE
just about perfect that turned perfect when you passed the V-8 on a pull....thats racing

 

Popped along to the Red Rooster festival for a spot of Americana in the next county. Highlights? Sam Fish, Jerron Paxton, and Willi Carlisle.

Took the roadster and the coupe along for a friend to drive.

 

@hotrodfil
Ahhhh, I see what you did there....Tea, T time.....

 

Happy Friday everyone!

I recently have discovered some photos of a Green Engine Works conversion for a Frontenac SR.
What is known about Pop Green/ Green Engine works?

Here's a rather odd looking Green DOHC for a Model A block.

 

Never tooo many carbs

 

I once owned a Green DOHC head with all the correct & needed accessories.
It was an 8 valve head with Huge intake and exhaust ports ! I bought this from a collector guy in the Denver area around 1972, sold it in the early 80s along with my Riley 4 port race car. All the gears used in tower were straight cut, there was a provision for a water pump at the bottom of the drivers side of the gear tower and a provision for a magneto on the passengers side - traditional location.
The intake manifold was a typical log design with flanges for side draft Winfield carbs. The exhaust manifold was somewhat crude compared to the rest of the items, probably from multiple times being poorly repaired. If there's anything else you want to ask, please feel free to .

 

A big banger at work 625CI (10L) 4 Cyl OHC hemi combustion chamber
1914 Sunbeam GP replica.

 

Seen this today at a friends garage.

 

intake manifold?

 

Badass! That's the second piece, it also had a side cover to match as well (photo is not mine unfortunately). Im curious the timeline of these, also pictured is Jim Brierly in '76 with his cook overhead

 

I’m curious - does anyone have any pictures or statistics on a Cyclone head?

combustion chamber design, compression ratio, performance comparison with say a Winifred 7:1 head, or any other measurements?

 

not sure if it's your cup of tea, but Charlie Yapp developed his own cyclone head i believe. maybe you can pour through his site and find some good: Secrets Of Speed - DIGITAL SAMPLE ISSUE

 

You might try this guy. @Cyclone Kevin

 

Kevin and I were messaging back and forth a few minutes ago - unrelated subject.

Charlie Yapp’s head is an F head, I’m after info on the flathead made at Cook’s machine Shop

 

moving right along ..... could a banger transmission be adapted to a column shift?

i vaguely remember my 1968 Peugeot 404 had a 4 speed column shift. didn't help when i rolled it, but i can't blame the car for that.

 

I think the easiest way would be to use a Banger-to-V8-trans adapter and use a '40-'48 transmission instead of the more typical '32-'39.

In fact, I think there was a car set up exactly that way, column shifter and all, in Hop Up about 25 years ago.

 

According to Jim Brierly, "Cook" aka Cyclone heads were made by the Cook machine shop just East of L.A. They made 104 of them. They were made in the late 30's for racing, and had no water pump boss or distributor opening. They ran great on gasoline but needed work to make them run good on fuel, because of the cartridge fire plug location.

Jim ran a Cook head turbocharged on alcohol at Bonneville in 2013 and went 167.

 

66 years ago, I put a Cyclone head on my cut-down Model A pickup. Couldn't get it started with the starter. Pushed it a bit, lit it off, it ran for about 5 seconds and quit. Opened it up and found the N. 4 piston would not go up and down. (My fault.)

Couple years later had a Cyclone quick-change. Borrowed a set of 4.44 gears to go racing, broke the back plate. My fault again. The narrow gears were for a T. But I got a little look at the dark and dusty Cook Machine Co. Picked up the cracked back cover replacement and wondered why the six bolt holes for the studs in the housing go thru the outside a little. "You get to drill your own." That's how the original one was set up by the original owner.