Hot Rods Big Daddy's 55 2 door wagon gasser

I have extended lugs on my Pontiac. People ask me why. I tell them it used to have wider wheels.

 

I knew a guy that absolutely would try anything he could to not adhere to rules, regardless whether it was to his detriment or not, kind of like those fools that would use exhaust tubing for roll bars, I wonder if Smokey tried that.
Hey, here's an idear, why not use regular length studs and glue long studs in long lug nuts to make it look like legal length studs.

 

Someone local did that, used loc-tite to affix the stud into the lug nut, it worked until someone spilled the beans to tech inspector.

 

Well, just my opinion, but I think Lloyd and Bill are gonna put their eye out with those things.

 

He verified it, gotta have a 5 point harness in street class, along with the rear wheel studs. Bunch of shit if you want my opinion, it's called a street car for a reason. See what happens when i get back from the reunion. Not enough time & not enough money.

 

Bummer Lloyd. Parts not much, but takes time to do the studs.
Hang in there, never know what will align.

edit: Sped read over the harness

 

Is this what’s needed?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...MI2rHRzNfbjQMVa87CBB3apxuzEAQYAiABEgIsbfD_BwE

 

I think I have a 5 point set in blue in the garage . I know they are dated , but if I have them , say you want them and they are yours .
Outstanding work , cool factor is off the chart .

 

Yes those meet the spec. But just because they meet the spec doesn’t mean they are safe. Mounting and routing are major factors in restraint safety. As mentioned earlier, if the shoulder belts come over the seat and can compress the seat they pull your shoulders down as you rotate forward. Improper lap belt positioning can also cause serious injuries. And don’t even ask what an improperly positioned or mounted crotch belt can injure. I watched some tech inspections and didn’t see a single driver in the seat when they checked restraints. Much like checking random studs would have found the above mentioned fake studs. The requirements are for legal liability and safety is a secondary benefit for the association. Just like drag and drives check your track stuff but not if your car is street legal. If you drive it in, it must be. (Note: I have not been to a drag and drive to see this first hand but there is no mention of it in any of the thousands of videos.).

 

Did you put a roll bar in the wagon, I'm a little puzzled why they are saying you need a 5 point ?
Our local tracks follow the NHRA rule book and I know the rule book says you can go 7.30 I believe in the 1/8 before needing a roller bar and OEM seat belts are good up until you add a roll bar.

 

100%. Glad you brought this up. Improperly installed restraints can definitely cause some serious internal injuries. Extensive testing has been done by Schroth Racing (and others) on this. See their installation instructions. These principals can be used with any brand of restraint.

In any case it's going to be very difficult (but not impossible) to properly install a set of 5 pt. belts without a properly constructed roll bar. I have never liked the OEM lap and shoulder belts but they do work in traffic accidents. I've seen them used in street cars at the drag strip on grudge night in the past but, they were factory installed and 14+ second and slower cars.

Something doesn't seem quite right with the information Lloyd has been given and I wonder if this is even a sanctioned track. Usually the wheel stud deal is for all four wheels. Yeah this stuff costs money but It's really cheap insurance.

 

I got by at the salt flats by bolting the shoulder straps to the rear seatbelt mount point. They let it slide but wasn't really liking it.

 

How fast do you think this car is going to be? I would sure be for just putting some factory seatbelts in until you at least know how fast it is. I know I have somewhat played stupid (which I technically was) through tech on how fast my cars have been. That typically worked since I wasn’t as fast as I thought I was anyway…

 

Yes, that is what I ordered last night (in purple) as well as a new helmet, my old one was so old the inside padding was crumbling

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

I have no idea what my car will run. Street tires with 3.73 gears, not gonna break any 1/8th mile records for sure I'll search the swap meet and pits in Bowling Green next week, see what i can find. But no i don't have a roll bar swade, wouldn't mind a hoop with rear down bats, but I don't want climb over door bars, it's a STREET CAR

 

“5 point harness”?
Sounds like something out of S&M dungeon!

 

No problem Big Daddy, they make swing out side/door bar kits that can easily be bolted in just for those occasional track days.

 

Lap belts

https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/produ...L5fT3v7RDGPbseFr_QlkidhLx5c190uxoC5esQAvD_BwE

 

I think part of the problem here is that you keep referring to your car as a "Street Car", while in fact it has been modified pretty seriously. Here's a suggestion, go down to that track just south of you, the one you said runs tuner cars, and try it down there. If you don't have a NHRA 2025 rulebook, here's a link.
https://www.nhraracer.com/default.asp

 

Lol.... yep, I'm a backwoods redneck fuck but I'm not taxed to death or paying more than $2.69 for gas

 

What modifications has he done that made it not a street car ???

 

Alan,

Modifications do not matter unless it causes the vehicle to not pass the general highway inspection I.E. headlights, tailights, blinkers, DOT tires, etc.

By the way....I believe the London, Ky track is IHRA.

I have an email into the track rep himself as of this morning, hoping to get a response back soon so we can clear this up. I saw nothing in the rules about 5 point harnesses for street cars in the NHRA rules, but the rule book is 436 pages so.....

God Bless
Bill
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...ar-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

 

Even though the car can legally be driven on the street, there are enough mods, with the front end being one, that move it from a street stock vehicle to something resembling a "Gas Class" car. If you're going racing, there are always rules. Some you can bypass without getting into too much trouble, ignore the serious ones and it will bite you in the ass. In this case, Lloyd is playing catch-up because he's already built the car and now, he has to do some modifications to get it legal for whatever class he will eventually run in.

I understand the differences between NHRA and IHRA. I'm just suggesting that Lloyd see if the London track will let him run to establish a baseline time. With that time, he can see where the car will fit.

 

I say forget all that "track rules" crap, and just find a nice, straight rural road and you 2 guys go at it...you are hoodlums after all

 

That's a good looking belt and looks like a period piece. HRP

 

A couple lines on the road and a stopwatch can time it.

 

I totally missed the obvious solution

 

Plus, they can also come in handy at the strip club!

 

No no. Remember the scene further in the movie about oddity in the basement?