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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pantodd74, Jan 3, 2025.

  1. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    Ok my son and I got the old block with 700 case mounted into the roadster today. I have to modify the trans cross member about an inch. I have 1/4 inch plate or flat stock to move the center section back. I did find a stand alone box to control the transmission from Summit MSD 2762. Who has done the swap and what controller did you use? Tomorrow we will fab the permanent trans cross member. With the block, heads and intake installed I will start building the exhaust. I have to get a slide hammer tomorrow to remove the rocker studs that stripped the threads to install the new studs and finish building the heads that belong on the motor.
     
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  2. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    @pantodd74
    No slide hammer Needed ,
    Use a 3/8 socket or pipe stock ,
    Slide over Stud & Jack / pull them out
     
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  3. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    19eddy30 that will work with no threads on the studs?
     
  4. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    from VA

    The Threads on studs ,
    rocker arms adjustment threads.
    You slide a socket /
    Tube stock, ext over ,
    With like 3/8 of threads sticking threw, your Solid spacer .
    Tighten Nut , it will pull / jack stud
    out of Head ,
    Studs are just pressed in .
    Use grease / oil between Nut & solid spacer for less friction as you tighten
    Nut
     
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  5. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    Ah got ya. Well I bought the tool with the new threaded studs. I got one out with a slide hammer. The last 2 with stripped threads won't budge with the slide hammer. I have a few idea's in mind to get them out. The problem is I got greedy with an impact to speed the job up which helped strip the threads. The last tone's I used my ratchet with socket and it pulled them no problem.
     
  6. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
    Member
    from VA

    Yes , Impact can cause more issues ,
    Also fine thread more threads per inch
    But threads not as deep as corse with less threads per inch ,,

    Just saying , a 5/16 bolt can lift dead
    300 pounds or so , But stanch / shock lift & more likely will break ,
    Some times Slow & steady is best !
     
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  7. alchemy
    Joined: Sep 27, 2002
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    alchemy
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    I always feel an impact is useful on removal of things you’re going to throw away.
     
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  8. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    I got them out. I used a few of the good studs that came out. Slipped the 3/8 nipple over the good studs welded to the bad one. They came right out. With that done I threaded all the holes for the new studs. Started lapping in the new valves and got down to the last exhaust valve and it won't slide into the guide even with some oil on the stem. I can't see anything inside the guide that would make it hang up. Soooo now to find the right size reamer and clean it up to allow the new valve to slide in. Or is the guide garbage and need new guides?
     
  9. 19Eddy30
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    19Eddy30
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    @pantodd74
    Mic both ,
    Stem of Valve
    & I.D of guild
     
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  10. patsurf
    Joined: Jan 18, 2018
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    patsurf

    just make sure to try a couple of valves not just the one..
     
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  11. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    I opened another exhaust valve and it went right in. I mic'd the one that wouldn't go in with another valve and they are all the same. Must be a burr or something on the tip of the valves I can't see. Got the 1st head done being worked over. Just have to wash it and assemble it.
     
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  12. pantodd74
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    pantodd74

    One head is done. I will finish the other tomorrow. That is if the goofy exhaust valve can be cleaned up to fit without messing up the guide. Then finish the cross member for the transmission and on to building the exhaust. Gonna use the controller from Us shift.com with TPS. I just have to find the right pass through speed sensor to talk with the trans controller and spin the cable driven speedo. Soon the stroked mouse with new trans will be installed and running. Also have to rewire the whole thing.
     
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  13. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    So yesterday I called Speedway and have to call Monday to get the bunk valve taken care of. My son and I tried to find a nut for the trans mount today out of my stash to no avail. Why wouldn't a parts store sell the mount with the nut? These parts stores are a freaking joke! Anywho I will grab the right nut and get the xmember finished. Talked to a buddy that runs the local machine shop about the valve and he told me to get it exchanged. If I was to ream the guide it would change the centerline of the seat. Grinding or milling the valve to fit would take away the stem's hardness.
     
  14. pantodd74
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    pantodd74

    Bad valve enroute back to Speedway. Got a replacement from Lane Automotive and pushrods and long block is now done other that paint. This week at work I will sand blast the trans cross member and paint it. Then start building the exhaust the wife wants. Almost to the point of installing drivetrain and firing it up!
     
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  15. pantodd74
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    pantodd74

    Been busy the past 2 weeks and haven't touched the car. Tomorrow I hope to start building the exhaust. Gonna be fun!
     
  16. pantodd74
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    pantodd74

    20250425_204837.jpg Well this is as far as I got last night with the exhaust. After some feeble attempts I finally figured out how to mimic the angles and lengths. Cut a 15 degree angle at the flange and shape it to the opening. Then about 5 inches straight pipe to the cut upward angle pipe. 20250425_204812.jpg
     
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  17. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    Been a while since I've posted anything. With the weather changing and work that needed and needs to be done take priority over the car. I did manage on May 20th due to the weather get all 4 pipes mocked up. I haven't touched the car since. New pool liner, heater and a lower deck refacing with new cabana have take up my free time. Here is a few shots of the 4 pipes tacked in. 20250520_104433.jpg
     

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  18. alchemy
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    Your wife wanted that? At least you won’t be able to hear her complaining about it after you start it up.
     
  19. mad mikey
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    Finally, some one that may have the balls to run zoomies bedside's me. Now I don't fell so all alone.:D
    :):cool: Love the build brother.
     
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  20. pprather
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    Do you actually drive a rod with those pipes outside the fairgrounds?
     
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  21. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    Yes that is what she wanted. We will see how long they last after the first start up to break in the cam and the first drive.
     
  22. 19Eddy30
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    Not Zoom's
    @ WOT Loud !!
    XR1's

    IMG_3525.png
    IMG_3526.png
     
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  23. Automotive Stud
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    Automotive Stud
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    Is that body shortened and narrowed? What's the story there?
     
  24. Corn Fed
    Joined: May 16, 2002
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    Corn Fed
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    I bet a bull riders 8 seconds will last longer than your wife sitting in the passenger seat with those pipes spewing fumes and noise into her face.
     
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  25. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    I don't have any history other than the current version was done in 1960 or 61. It's titled as a 1928 tho. Not running a 700r4. We are running a new 4l60e.
     
  26. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    Finally got back to working on the ol girl. Got the driver side exhaust damn near close to the pass side. I did realize stock length pushrods are not going to work with this motor combo. The roller tip rocker nuts are so far down on the studs that I don't have enough threads to install the Allen locks. Time to get the pushrod measuring device out and add any where from an 1/8th to a 1/4 inch. 20250903_151219.jpg
     
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  27. pantodd74
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    pantodd74

    Mod's could you be so kind as to move this thread back to the traditional hot rod forum? I have no idea how it ended up here.
     
  28. Moriarity
    Joined: Apr 11, 2001
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    Moriarity
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    the traditional hot rod forum is for period perfect 1965 and older style builds only (no modern parts). the hokey assed message board is for traditionally inspired builds. you can see the rules for posting here:
    https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-h-a-m-b-rules-guidelines.44274/
     
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  29. 19Eddy30
    Joined: Mar 27, 2011
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    19Eddy30
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    @pantodd74
    Can you post a pic of any cylinder
    Where both IN / Ex on bottom of
    Heal of cam , both Valve's closed
    With Rocker setting on stem
    with push rods in .

    You can get Longer Polly Locks ,

    Yes all ways Good / should check
    Geometry of Rockers to push rods .
     
  30. pantodd74
    Joined: Jun 29, 2023
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    pantodd74

    I did some math and figured out I need 8.000 pushrods to get the rockers where they belong. Also I will be able to install the poly locks with the correct pushrods.
     
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