My daily truck has gotten (okay, has always been) pretty rough, to the point where it'd be easier to swap the whole cab instead of trying to patch all the holes. Anybody have any experience dealing with the Illinois DMV after swapping cabs on a currently registered/***led truck? What's the process like? I ***ume you'd have to re-register since the VIN would change. Do they require an inspection or anything like that? The local DMV is kind of hard to deal with, so I'd like to go in with as much information as possible.
I believe you would have to have a new vin issued By Sec of State police.They would also want to see either the ***le or a copy of the ***le of the donor cab I bet
If you don't have a ***le for the new cab I think Russco is on the right track. If it is something from a junkyard that has surrendered the ***le for a junking certificate then you will have to deal with the SOS Police to get a new VIN. Once a junking certificate is issued in Illinois it is not able to be ***led again. Rebuilt/salvage ***les are a different animal. Now if you happen to get a ***le with the cab, I'd think you can just ***le it and be done...I'm not aware of any C-VIN's on vehicles that old. Bill
On a '64 I'd just swap tags, too. Or maybe not even, unless the police regularly crosscheck the actual tag info. But as long as you drill the rivets and install it so it looks correct I doubt you'd have a problem. If you think you might, get a stamp set and stamp the number someplace else inside the cab while you do the swap -
It's been about 15 years ago, but when we did this we had to have both ***les and have the truck inspected after the swap. Kind of a pain. Now that I live in the Southwest I want to kick myself for playing with rusty vehicles all those years. Nik
This was what first came to mind for me... On the truck I am re-doing.. it has two vin tags,... I got two sets of tags from two trucks I am making into one... One will be a street rod pickup,.. the rest of the other one will not exist any more, and will go into the s**** pile. I guess I can use either set of vin tags I want. I'd think if you are using a "like" cab,.. you could do the same thing. I don't see much different in doing that, than between changing a rear clip on a new car, putting on new rear fenders from an accident, etc. You still using the same ch***is. Don't need to get new vin number in those instances... I guess I'm a rebel... I'd just swap them and not worry about it... hahahaha You probably smart for checking though
For what it's worth, I personally don't see a problem switching the VIN tags on a like-model truck, especially if one is going to be s****ped afterwards. BUT, I figured I'd ask around first and see if it's illegal illegal or "maybe you accidentally misread your vin tag *winkwink*" illegal. I make enough work for myself without adding legal h***les to the mix.
Well I don't have a copy of the Illinois Vehicle Code in front of me but I can tell you that switching the VIN plates IS illegal. I don't remember what type of rivets held on those tags tho....so it might be possible to switch it if someone was inclined to do so. Not that I would suggest someone alter a vin plate or anything! Bill
A good source of info would be a body shop that has done it reciently.Like someone here said a salvage cab is a real h***el. mtcw Jerry
I don't know about Chebbys of that year, but Ford trucks have VIN stampings on the frame from at least the early '50s on. It might behoove a person to verify any locations like that on their particular vehicle if they were thinking about VIN tags. behoove: the "old fart" word of the day.
Do you have a ***le for the truck the new cab is coming from? Just register it as that truck. I'm about to put a 53 Int. on a 93 Dodge ch***is, I have ***les for both so I'm going to register it as the 53, because anyone will see it's not a 93 dodge, and I doubt they would recognize that the ch***is is wrong, and the engine could have been swapped anytime in the past 53 years. But I'm not familiar with illinois' laws (or my states either)
The rivets on the VIN tags are special.Contact the SoS police for the "correct" and legal way to do this.It's not really that big of a deal,considering the year of the trucks involved.
A guy i work with was swapping cabs on an S 10 he was building for his kid. He was worried about swapping the vin tags too as he had no ***le for the good cab. He knew that the rivits are "special" so I suggested that he just cut a section of the dash out of the old cab and weld it into the god cab.
Well as a body shop oner in the state of ILL, I am licensed by the state. I only have to keep records of vehicles and major components for the past 10 years. In fact I was changing a cab on a truck that was about 15 years old a few years ago and the state license inspector came in and saw the whole deal, did not say anything and told a young trainee what was going on and did nothing. I swapped the tag and out it went. Gene
They make swapping the VIN tags a felony, so they can charge a chop shop with multiple felonies. There would not be anything said about a vin swap on a old truck, just keep all your paperwork from the donor cab (bill of sale or whatever). What year did they start using the rosette rivets? I thought it was after 64?
I found this From Illinois Vehicle code, It is a cl*** 2 felony to remove or tamper with a VIN tag.This is the exemption for purpose of repair (a‑1) A person engaged in the repair or servicing of vehicles does not violate this Chapter by knowingly possessing a manufacturer's identification number plate for the purpose of reaffixing it on the same damaged vehicle from which it was originally taken, if the person reaffixes or intends to reaffix the original manufacturer's identification number plate in place of the identification number plate affixed on a new dashboard that has been or will be installed in the vehicle. The person must notify the Secretary of State each time the original manufacturer's identification number plate is reaffixed on a vehicle. The person must keep a record indicating that the identification number plate affixed on the new dashboard has been removed and has been replaced by the manufacturer's identification number plate originally affixed on the vehicle. The person also must keep a record regarding the status and location of the identification number plate removed from the replacement dashboard. The Secretary shall adopt rules for implementing this subsection (a‑1). (a‑2) The owner of a vehicle repaired under subsection (a‑1) must, within 90 days of the date of the repairs, contact an officer of the Illinois State Police Vehicle Inspection Bureau and arrange for an inspection of the vehicle, by the officer or the officer's designee, at a mutually agreed upon date and location. (b) Sentence. A person convicted of a violation of this Section shall be guilty of a Cl*** 2 felony. You could probably just swap cabs and be good,but if a cop were to catch a mis matched vin to registration and they wanted to be ****s about it I doubt you would get your truck back I would just call The SOS or ISP vehicle inspection bureau and tell them what your wanting to do and see what they say first then decide
The rivets are called rose rivets and they are about $20 a piece if you can find them. Cut the vin out and weld the panel in like you would for a repair.
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