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Technical Bare steel primer

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by johnfin, Oct 10, 2025.

  1. johnfin
    Joined: Apr 11, 2008
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    johnfin
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    from Florida

    What is a decent bare metal primer that is affordable and decent. Por 15 is over priced.
     
  2. 1971BB427
    Joined: Mar 6, 2010
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    from Oregon

    What are you priming? The body or frame? And is this to seal it before paint, or what?
     
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  3. Yep, need more info. Generally, good clean bare metal- any good DTM primer will work depending on what is going over it. Metal that may have some rust- etch primer. I have used NAPA stuff (Acme) with good results.
     
  4. johnfin
    Joined: Apr 11, 2008
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    Frame rails and floor pans, maybe painted.
     
  5. larry k
    Joined: Feb 23, 2009
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    Poxy it man , Epoxy !!!
     
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  6. rusty valley
    Joined: Oct 25, 2014
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    Viking Paint, Bloomington Mn., has cheap epoxy primer, made in house, about 1/2 price of the big names, google em up. They ship to your door.
     
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  7. SEAAIRE354
    Joined: Sep 7, 2015
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    I’m an epoxy fan on bare clean steel. And I’m pretty sure Pour 15 isn’t recommended for bare steel. It uses the rust as its primer. I’ve seen it peel right off bare steel.
     
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  8. Cali4niaCruiser
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    Check out PPG DP90 (Black) DP50LF (Gray). DTM 2K
     
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  9. rusty valley
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    You need to refinance your house to use PPG products these days, I quit
     
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  10. Ryans65
    Joined: Apr 12, 2018
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    My body guy buddy just told me the other day that if its temporary touch ups to clean metal use cheap self etch, if its a permanent layer use epoxy. Do not use POR, it is a fancy scam for real body work. Maybe for an old chassis with little prep but I'd just brush on rustoleum at that point and save some coin.
     
  11. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
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    Nothing involving paint is inexpensive these days. The cheap stuff that used to work pretty well is pretty much garbage now. A gallon of Rustoleum that used to cost $25 a gallon is now over $50 and its not anywhere near as good as it was when I could buy it for $25.

    The Rustoleum paint and primer still works pretty well on frames and under body not exposed to direct sunlight. The direct sunlight will cause it to fade pretty quickly.
    Straight primer does not offer rust protection for very long, it was intended to be painted shortly after the primer dried.
    Epoxy primer seems to grab a hold of bare, clean metal a bit better then ordinary primer, but the price jumps up pretty fast.
    I had my truck painted in 2022. The acrylic urethane paint supplies required to paint it, at my buddies body shop cost, was $328 and change. The same products, the same volume, and the same color, at his cost, is now just under $1,000. List price for an off the street customer would be several hundred dollars more, if they would even sell it to the customer without a body shop license these days.
     
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  12. dwollam
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    The P O R in POR15 stands for "paint over rust". It does not stick to shiney bare metal. Beads up like fish eye. Use it as it is supposed to be used and it does it's job well. It's excellent for underside of a body on anything driving on the salt at Bonneville. But is not good for external stuff your not going to paint as it has ZERO UV protection. The sun burns it off pretty quickly. It will eventually disappear completely.

    Dave
     
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  13. UpNorthGreg
    Joined: Sep 6, 2025
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    I've got some metal work that needs to be done on my '41. I'm new at this so progress is going to be very slow. Is there a primer in a spray can that would work good for protecting the bare metal until I get around to doing the finishing body work?
     
  14. Ppg EPX industrial
     
  15. Go ahead and use a real primer.
    Saves time on the other end
     
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  16. Moriarity
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    I will second what @rusty valley says. Viking paints in Bloomington Mn sells Tenaco epoxy primer and this stuff is fantastic. Squeeges resells the stuff under their own label for about double.
     
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  17. DDDenny
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  18. UpNorthGreg
    Joined: Sep 6, 2025
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    Not set up for painting and currently don't own a gun. Would love to be able to just wheel it over to the paint booth whenever I have a 4"x4" area of bare metal that needs to be primed, but that's not going to happen.
     
  19. Don’t need a gun
    Roll it on
     
  20. Nason ful-poxy primer
     
  21. chopolds
    Joined: Oct 22, 2001
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    from howell, nj

    I've been using Tamco primers. As good as the name brands, and a lot cheaper. And you have a few options (slo-dry epoxy, faster epoxy, high builds, etc.) They ship, sometimes for free.
     
  22. gene-koning
    Joined: Oct 28, 2016
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    Often the spray can primers available at your local hardware store are a waist of time, protection wise. Most are too thinned out to be effective anymore. Buy a gallon or a quart of primer that can be brushed on, or rolled on with a small paint roller. Be aware the drying times on most store bought paint these days is several hours at above 50 degrees. Without the proper drying time above the lowest temp listed on the can, the primer is less effective. Once completely dried, the currently available brushed or rolled on primer is effective in wet conditions for only a few months now, instead of the longer time frame it used to be effective for. If you can protect the primer from weather conditions, it buys you a bit longer life, buy not years long, like the old stuff was.
     
  23. jimpopper
    Joined: Feb 3, 2013
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    I have been using SPI from Blairsville Georgia with good results southernpolyurethanes.com
     
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