Hi Fellas! I know this is not a great pic, but I'm hoping there's enough here for one of you to identify this car make and approximate year? Appreciate any and all help, Ronnie
The flat fender is early 20s back, but the solid wheel is possibly later? I found this resource to be able to scroll thru a lot of identified pictures. Remember that the luxury makers often supplied chassis to coach builders. https://www.packardsonline.com/slide-show.cfm EDIT: Going thru, the 21s seem to have the flat fender, but spoke wheels and 'hoop' handles. Note both have no exterior hinges and both have front hung doors in the rear. The 22s have a cowl/windshield that match better and solid wheels, but round fenders and more typical door handles.
Definitely going with Packard and they loved the solid wheels too. The hood shape favors the early models maybe somewhere around the mid to late 20’s?!? Either way a regal car for a well to do gentleman
Custom top on a touring car. Sometimes called a "California" top. Wish we could see the front, that would nail down the Packard theory.
I'd concentrate on the steering wheel....although it looks like it might possibly (slim) be a version of a Fatman?? which was aftermarket. Also, the tag on the pic is "Browning". There is a section of the Browning Museum in Ogden, Utah that has antique cars.
With the characteristics I pointed out that seem to mix year breaks, lack of handles and that steering wheel @Joe Blow mentions, it is quite possible it's A. not Packard, B. modified. The apron between the body and running board is very similar, but the spare mount, custom top, no handles and no curve on the edge of the fender lean toward mods.
Last year we had a Packard gathering in our area that i went to and this one has the same style of spare wheel fixing and wheel type. JW
Thanks for sharing those pictures JW., both outstanding cars! I think the car I posted has more "primitive" looking fenders than both of those above. Your thoughts?
You are correct but these are newer Packard's that have the same style wheel although more wheel studs and the same (very similar if not exact) as the pic you posted. I may have to dig deeper. JW
googled Packard phaetons back to 1913.... didn't see one with square doors, there was 100 auto manufacturers in 1920. it would be close to impossible to find a photo of that car.
The Kissel never had flat fenders or disk wheels, the Packard had flat fenders to 1921 and disk wheels from 1923 (wood spokes also). As has been said there were many coach body builders and the car in the photo "may" have newer wheels fitted. AI makes shit up so i never use it or trust it. JW
Maxwell plus flat sides, disc wheels, no handles. minus windshield frame, cowl to door dip, apron height. No to Dodge, Chevy, Essex and Cad, too. https://forums.aaca.org/topic/427768-what-is-this-sporty-touring-car/ Anderson. Same as a few Kessel's I saw, not running boards, but just steps. Some coachbuilt Packards. https://www.coachbuild.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=834 If you enlarge the pic and look at the door top and how it flows into the cowl, it's faceted, not curved.
The plot thickens, Maxwell's never had a side mount spare. One interesting feature on the original pic is the rear door hinges. This shows that the door quit far rearward over the fender. JW
I've got an old corroded brass 30's Cadillac hubcap that looks/is shaped like that, hexagonal center, with a round silver/stainless badge in the center with the Cadillac logo, and "standard of the world" around the edge.. Found it in a river, lying at the end of a severly rusted diff and the collapsed remains of a wheel.. Edit... I have just been up in the loft and checked my hubcap, it's diameter is approx the same width, but mine has a raised center leading up to the hex..
That hub on the rear wheel does not match the shape of any of the suggested examples. It's short and has a larger diameter all the way to the cap. The hex could just be for a wrench to remove the hub cap.
I looked up Mechanics monument and i can't seem to see it there. That steering wheel would be a sure tell tale to the correct make. JW
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